hi mincy,
"before"? why discontinued?
i am using that for regular flu - ya it taste great.
was using Prospan for cough, but the pharmacist said it was discontinued and that Abrilar uses the same ingredients. Was wondering what will happen if i use over-the-counter cough syrup 'wrongly' eg different treatment needed for pleghmy cough and dry cough.
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:00 am Post subject: Prospan
jedamum wrote:
i am using that for regular flu - ya it taste great.
was using Prospan for cough, but the pharmacist said it was discontinued and
Prospan was prescribed by a family clinic to my infant when his cough did not got better. Coincidentally it was the same prescription I got for my cough. He took it for 1.5 weeks, and he got worst and had bronchitis. When I went back to the PD, they had to give him antibiotics.
PD told me Prospan is a milder cough syrup. From then, I told PD not to prescribe that for my son. Prolonged cough is not good for children. They should recover at max in 2 weeks after 2 consultation. I don't think over the counter cough syrup is a good idea, if parents can self-medicate, we don't need doctors to go through years of studying. As adult, we can take risk and make decision for our own life, when it comes to our little ones, I strongly propose you bring them to trained doctors. They still have a long way to go.
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Prospan
lifestylelink wrote:
I don't think over the counter cough syrup is a good idea
For us, usually if over the counter medication (or in fact even doctor prescribed medication) doesn't work for 5 days (and for fever, 3days), it's time to see a doctor (again).
Infant should never be self-medicated.
I still remember last time our cough syrup is Woods minty type.....yucks!!! Anybody still taking that?
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:32 am Post subject: Woods
Heyya jedamum,
My FIL takes that!
He likes the minty
taste very much..
Refuse to take doc
prescribed cough
syrups.
Dhasedyl is much
too drowsy for his
liking. But i told him
good and fast recovery
for dry cough. Phenexpect,
tho good for phlegmy
cough he doesn't like
either. Doesn't help
that he's a smoker.
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:39 am Post subject: Re: Prospan
Quote:
For us, usually if over the counter medication (or in fact even doctor prescribed medication) doesn't work for 5 days (and for fever, 3days), it's time to see a doctor (again).
that's exactly what I mean, sometimes we need stronger dose and those you can buy over the counter, they are mild drugs, thats why don't need prescription. Doctor will judge whether stronger or milder medicine is required. Why let them suffer from cough/fever for 3 day-5 days before seeing a trained doctor? Are we teaching them the right value too? Remember, we are setting examples for our little ones.[/quote]
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:39 am Post subject: Re: Prospan
lifestylelink wrote:
Are we teaching them the right value too? Remember, we are setting examples for our little ones.
different parents have different ways of treating their ill kids. some prefer to bring to the doc at first instance, some feel that stronger dosage have an adverse effect on the immunity system in the long run and prefer to let the kid's body immunity fight the virus hoping that the immunity system will prevail (hence the mild drugs for temporary relief), some parents just do not want to spend the money just to have the GP prescribe the same thing, some prefer to turn to TCM for cure...etc etc.
I don't think it has anything to do with value (unless you are talking about 'value-for-money' )
Meant to share with all this effective recipe for removing phlegm long ago but till now then really have the time to do so (now my 6 years old is having chesty cough and have to make it again).
STEWED PEAR WITH ROCK SUGAR冰糖燉梨
INGREDIENTS:
Chuan Bei Powder 川貝母粉 – 3 to 6 grams for a 50 kgs adult (meaning if your child is 25 kg, you may use 1.5 to 3 grams. Amount of powder is your child’s weight / 50 x (3 to 6 grams)
Rock Sugar 冰糖 – cannot use white sugar else may attract more phlegm. Optional (if your child doesn’t mind the bitterness, you may not add this item. Else, add a small rock like the size of your finger nail).
A Pear – one medium size pear for a 50 kgs adult (meaning if your child is 25 kg, you take half. Amount of pear is your child’s weight / 50 x 1. Best to use organic pear as the skin will be used (but I still can’t find organic pears in Singapore yet).
Boiling water
THINGS YOU NEED:
A container (炖杯/碗)with cover (I use a chawanmushi cup)
A rice cooker
A measuring spoon (from Eu Yan San)
INSTRUCTIONS (my son is about 25 kgs and so below shows the preparation for his portion):
1. If the pear used is not organic, rub the skin with salt to rid any insecticide.
2. Rinse the pear well.
3. Peel its skin (keep for use)
4. Cut the pear into half and remove the core. Use only half of the pear with half of the pear skin and eat the other half yourself.
5. Cut the halved pear into small pieces.
6. Next, put about 2 grams of powder into the cup.
7. Fill the cup to about half with boiling water
8. Stir to dissolve the powder in the water (stir well as the powder may turn lumpy).
9. Add in the rock sugar and stir to dissolve it.
10. Add in the pear pieces and its skin.
11. Cover the cup with its cover.
12. Then, fill the rice cooker with boiling water (to be about ½ the height of the cup).
13. Put the cup into the cooker.
14. Stew / boil for about 60 minutes.
15. Remove and serve when cool (eat everything in it).
Note:
1. The above will take you less than 10 minutes to prepare. It’s very simple and easy though my instructions above may sound / look complicated.
2. Your child will have to take it continuously for 7 days as a dessert (can be before or after food / morning or night). It loosen the phlegm and rid them quite completely if not completely. If after 7 days you still can hear some ‘phlegmy’ sound when your child laughs/coughs, rest for about 5 days and repeat another 7 days. It should work well.
3. Suitable for kids as young as 1 (but remember must adjust the amount of powder and pear used).
4. The best pears (tastiest) to used are those with brown skin that is really pear shape (not those rounded ones with yellow skin as not juicy and sweet enough). I got mine from Cold Storage which is $0.60 per piece. Choose the softer ones.
5. Chuan Bei looks like small white beads. Can get from any Chinese pharmacy store. I got mine from Eu Yan San, cost me about $30 for 30+ grams (一两). You may buy lesser and get them to grind the beads into powder for you. Also get a measuring spoon from them (they told me a flat spoon of powder is about 1 gram and I weigh from there).
6. Trust me, it’s yummy (with the rock sugar else my son will only eat it reluctantly). My son asks for it everyday after dinner…
7. Also can make for whole family as a dessert if a few of you have phlegm or can feel that the phlegm is coming up (use a bigger container and cut a few pears in and prepare accordingly. Some like to add in more water which is also fine).
8. If your child still cannot recover from his chesty cough with western medicine, this maybe the best thing to try.
9. There are a few variations available from the internet but I have settled for the above.
10. If more severe chesty cough, the strongest Chinese medicine that I know of is the 猴枣散 (monkey’s kidney stone). Price about $68 or $78 for 1 serving (think about 1 gm or 3 gm). While this is effective, overdose may stunt growth and so have to use this only sparingly (if Chuan Bei doesn’t work, then may proceed to use this one).
PS:
Don’t use your ‘western mind’ to laugh at stewing a pear will destroy all its vitamins. The purpose of stewing the pear is to remove it’s ‘coolness’ (which may cause more phlegm) while retaining its phlegm removing properties…
Have fun!
Last edited by insider on Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:04 am; edited 1 time in total
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Can i...
buds wrote:
Thanks for sharing...
Looks good.... and yummy too.
Can i stew it without the Chuan Bei?
Photos with love to all kiasuparents...
Stew pear is one of the traditional Chinese deserts. You may prepare so without the Chuan Bei. It also will reduce phlegm but milder. Usually if to be taken as a real desert, more water and rock sugar will be added. Without the Chuan Bei, then not much concern about the formula of xx/50 kgs... (but also cannot eat too much). However, not suitable if someone is having a fever...
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