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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:27 pm
by sall
There is a kind of pen, FRIXION from PILOT. The tip of the pen can be used to erase any mistakes easily. (I'm not a promoter for this pen, dd used it for psle.) Correction tape can be used for psle, v sure of this. Pencils are not allowed for writing.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:49 pm
by ANobleNerd
sall wrote:There is a kind of pen, FRIXION from PILOT. The tip of the pen can be used to erase any mistakes easily. (I'm not a promoter for this pen, dd used it for psle.) Correction tape can be used for psle, v sure of this. Pencils are not allowed for writing.
Frixion pen relies on heat to disappear. If you put a whole page of words written in this ink near a heat source, it will fade.

I don't know about you, but I know that the pages are stacked and collected. They are then transported in our heat to the exam centres. For some, the papers are stored in the schools until marking days. I'm not in favour of this, even though my son uses it for his daily work for convenience. How would I know if during transportation, the transport gets very heated up? How would I know if the scripts will be put near machinery and cause the pile to be hot?

We are using both Frixion pen and when closer to the PSLE, we'll switch to pen and correction tape. In fact, closer to the date, we'll even switch to a better quality correction tape. :wink:

*wails* Oh the financial costs of mistakes! /wails.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:02 pm
by sall
Have you tried putting near some heated source to see how high the temp must be before the ink gets erased. dd and alot of her classmates used it during psle, no problem at all. :D

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:08 pm
by Augmum
Mum1113 wrote:
Augmum wrote:
Mum1113 wrote: I thought so too.....we from same era :P :wink: ....but now the trend is not I guess.....DS says it's too wasting time , have to wait for it to dry first, time is precious....
apart from wasting time waiting for it to dry,
if u write over the correction pen, most likely yr pen will encounter problem in writing,
so better dun use correction tape or pen.
So you are for the idea of using ink eraser (you know the blue portion of the eraser) or cancel over it ?
No, i also not for the idea of ink eraser,
though for HW wise, sometimes still use.
the prob with ink eraser is that it takes quite a bit of time to erase (wasting time) and also running a risk of tearing the exam paper.

The best is of course not to make mistakes……which is quite impossible…haha

For mistakes in maths, cancel the whole maths workings and rewrite.
make sure to leave some space at the very beginning, esp for prob sums,
shd have no prob of space as usually 1 prob sum occupy 1 page.

And for words, cancel it neatly and write above or besides it…..(this is also what my gal’s pri sch teacher had told them).

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:11 pm
by Augmum
the types of ink pen used also need to be selective,
such as using waterproof, fadeless ink pen.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:28 pm
by Brenda10
Augmum wrote:the types of ink pen used also need to be selective,
such as using waterproof, fadeless ink pen.
Hi augmum

Any brand to recommend ?

Thank you

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:29 pm
by ANobleNerd
sall wrote:Have you tried putting near some heated source to see how high the temp must be before the ink gets erased. dd and alot of her classmates used it during psle, no problem at all. :D
Yes, we did. It disappears even if you rub with your fingers or fades a little if you rub your warm hands over the text a few times.

From the Australian Pilot Pen website:
Caution

Do not use the Frixion products when signing legal documents or cheques or for exams and other important writing.
Do not let the Frixion pens or any text written with Frixion ink be exposed to heat as this will cause the ink to turn invisible (this includes prolonged exposure to direct sunlight).
Pens exposed to heat can give the appearance of having run out of ink when in fact the ink is just not visible. If this does happen, place the pen or paper in the freezer for a short period of time for the ink to become visible again.
This person did an experiment with the pen:
http://www.quiltingboard.com/t-108544-1.htm

She found out that the ink doesn't go away; only that it's invisible.

At 140 deg F (or 60 deg Celsius) the ink becomes colourless. This means that temperatures approaching 50 degrees will be faded.

The ink returns at -10 deg Celsius.

Like I said, ambient temperatures are something you can't guarantee once the paper leaves your hands. Temperatures in a car on a hot day can be temperature inside a parked car can be 30°C to 40°C degrees hotter than the outside temperature. Even if the papers are not transported or left in the car for long, they could be placed in a room near machinery like photocopiers, where the machines could get quite hot.

Even if the words don't disappear, if it's faded and illegible, the markers might not be able to see the answers.

It was fortunate that your daughter and her friends did not face any issues with their paper - but it's not a risk that is worth taking, especially after the kids have worked so hard.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:42 pm
by Augmum
Brenda10 wrote:
Augmum wrote:the types of ink pen used also need to be selective,
such as using waterproof, fadeless ink pen.
Hi augmum

Any brand to recommend ?

Thank you
oh brands huh ??
actually there shd be quite a few, easily found in popular.
can try uniball signo, zebra.......

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:56 pm
by pixiedust
uniball signo - they have many different range, some are inkgel and if accidentally dropped, the ink doesn't come out smoothly.
Any particular pen, specially fine point eg. 0.5 which is tried and tested ?

The best quality correction tapes seem to be the Tombow ? but sometimes still peels :stupid: my ds can't do without correction tape.

Btw, thanks for sharing about frixon, ANobleNerd.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:58 pm
by Augmum
pixiedust wrote:uniball signo - they have many different range, some are inkgel and if accidentally dropped, the ink doesn't come out smoothly.
Any particular pen, specially fine point eg. 0.5 which is tried and tested ?
true.....
but i have also encountered other brands, if dropped accidently also the ink does not come out smoothly.