My perception of giftedness in higher education and real life

My perception of giftedness in higher education and real life. I’m still a professional educator, afterall… I teach at the tertiary level. This is just my view.

I believe if a person is above the 75%, they are no handicap to another at 99.9997% percentile. In fact, most people of very high IQ end up with repetitive jobs. So, it is better to nurture the EQ part of things.

Once a person is smart enough (above 75%), he/she functions no differently from a higher IQ person. The rest is also training, passion, attitude and the subconscious mind. I found these more important that pure brain power. I seek to help my children with these more than improving their brain prowess.

Here are some areas I see very lacking in students when they finish they IB/PreU and land in my classes:
1. Lack of opinion
2. Cliche style of writing (taught in primary school)
3. Afraid to have a different thought from what is ‘right’. There’s no ‘right’ in my classes, I need to know how you get your right answer.
4. Afraid to/Cannot ask intelligent or well thought out questions. I guess they are asked to shut up in schools.
5. Only seeking to score ‘A’ by finding out and reproducing what professors want. They’ll never find out in the uni, because there’s no such thing.

In the society (not government sector), I see top students struggle and mediocre students doing very well, because the latter adapt much better. The mediocre students are less afraid of making mistakes and more flexible.

Just my observation. From my observation, I often tell my children and students that it did not matter how extraordinarily smart they must be. Most importantly, they must do extraordinary things. Afterall, Einstein’s IQ was measured at only 70. Let’s not forget that.

Here’s a video you may like to watch 

Apt Reminder

EQ is as important as IQ.

Thanks for sharing :)

Thanks for sharing 🙂

I like your blog

I like your blog too.

Thanks for sharing with us.

Like your article and your video

I like your article and especially your video. Full of inspiration. Perseverance is the key to success.

Good one!

I like your article and video, is so meaningful  

Thank you for your comment

Thank you for your comment and encouragement 2ppaamm. You never fail to amaze me, with your brood of 5 and positive attitude. I have only one DD and I feel frazzled most times 

Buds, sama sama lah.  I

Buds, sama sama lah.  I enjoy reading your articles too!  Always insightful and inspirational.  Thank you so much!

EN, haha, don't know

EN, haha, don’t know whether this fact is true or not, I’m only quoting a book that my son is reading, and the book was bought from Amazon.  In any case, it says that he was not willing to take the IQ test.

I didn’t want to put my son through an IQ test but was told to do so.  During the test, he kept saying, "Don’t know, don’t know how to explain etc…"  If the child is not interested, he can never score well in the test.   So that’s just how much IQ can measure: how well you can do when you find the test interesting.

Thanks, Duriz for the

Thanks, Duriz for the update… maybe my book on Einstein was wrong.  Smart people never felt special, and I guess you are one of them!

Sun_2010, thanks for the

Sun_2010, thanks for the encouragement.  Let’s motivate each other to do better for our children!  We can do better with each lesson learnt, each obstacle.

Glad you like it.  I

Glad you like it.  I didn’t do it, some great teachers did.  Yes, as their mothers I also must lead the way by doing extraordinary things as well…. ha ha, like going maidless – many mothers here are doing that.  Kudos to you guys.  Tough, but worth it all.  We’ll all look back one day and wonder how we did it, but we will arrive doing something extraordinary for our kids.

Hey smum, a pleasure!

Hey smum, a pleasure!

Hi Sandunes, it must be

Hi Sandunes, it must be quite difficult for the children to adapt since they came back.  I remember a President from our Uni gave an example of a top student from law school.  This top student’s  father approached him and asked if his son was a problem through the 4 years in law school.  Well, this child was always punished through his education from kindergarten to PreU for talking too much.

In the uni, he shines.  He was good at asking questions and he debates very well.  He is skillful and articulate.  Fortunately, our system did not kill him.  He persevered.  I hope more of our students persevered and when they reach us at the uni, we will definitely not let just shut up and sit there.  Take heart.

Hi Desertwind, Only read

Hi Desertwind,

Only read this now.  Thank you for leaving a comment for me.  It means a lot, as I dig out some time to share my thoughts, hopefully to help some people.  I hope to give a different perspective to things. 🙂

Hi 2ppaamm, Thanks for

Hi 2ppaamm,

Thanks for sharing!  Have been following this thread and found it really interesting.  Provided me with a lot of food for thoughts and to formulate my own convictions about parenting my child as well.  I hope the best for your 4th child and that everything will work out well for him in due course.

 

Great article and video.

Great article and video. Thanks for sharing.

TFS! ;)

I don’t know abt Einsteon’s IQ or the statistics, but I have always enjoyed reading your posts and generous sharing. Your posts often serve as a good reminder to me, to put things into perspectives and to stay focus on what’s important to me and my family.
U are right abt the lack of opinions and ” shut up” part. This is one aspect my kids find it difficult to accept being out of local sch for many years. Although they love their new friends and school itself, their only complain is they are not allowed to talk in class and always asked to keep quiet. 🙁

Ordinary People doing

Ordinary People doing Extraordinary things – a very inspirational video to encourage everyone to do their best in whatever field or area they are in and a great teaching we can pass on to our kids. Thank you for sharing and I do admire you and wonder how you manage a career, 5 very special children and a home with no maid. You are our role model!

  2ppaamm, This article

 

2ppaamm,

This article and your posts in the thread " how to tell if a child is gifted" have been a real learning for me.

To juggle 5 kids and be their mentor and mom shows the amount of knowledge/discipline and most of all the great attitude you must have. It is a motivation to me.

thank u

Sun_2010

Actually, Einstein never

Actually, Einstein never took an IQ test. But it is believed that his IQ is about 159. I took one when I turned 18 yo. Result was 189, same as the  Immediate Past President of Mensa Singapore, Marina Tay. Nonetheless, I don’t feel/seem particularly gifted.

Interesting IQ Facts

  • The first Experimental Psychology tests were performed at the University of Pennsylvania around the year 1890.
  • The Binet-Simon test was developed in 1905 to help the French government identify retarded students in need of alternative education.
  • Classic formula: IQ = Mental Age/Chronological Age X 100. 
  • A normal intelligence quotient (IQ) ranges from 85 to 115 (According to the Stanford-Binet scale). Only approximately 1% of the people in the world have an IQ of 135 or over.
  • Half of the population have IQ’s of between 90 and 110, while 25% have higher IQ’s and 25% have lower IQ’s
IQ Range

Classification

140 and over Genius or near genius
120-140 Very superior intelligence
110-120 Superior intelligence
90-110 Normal or average intelligence
80-90 Dullness
70-80 Borderline deficiency
Below 70 Definite feeble-mindedness

Hello again ;)

Hi 2ppaamm

Interesting post.

Would you happen to know why:

"In fact, most people of very high IQ end up with repetitive jobs. "

Not only in your class but in working environment as well. Definitely a spot on if you compare between a Singaporean working adult that has gone through Singapore education system versus foreigners.

". Lack of opinion
2. Cliche style of writing (taught in primary school)
3. Afraid to have a different thought from what is ‘right’. There’s no ‘right’ in my classes, I need to know how you get your right answer.
4. Afraid to/Cannot ask intelligent or well thought out questions. I guess they are asked to shut up in schools.
5. Only seeking to score ‘A’ by finding out and reproducing what professors want. They’ll never find out in the uni, because there’s no such thing. "

But then, it’s the way the school curriculum is structured that created such students. Of course parents and society play a part too. Must be top school, top grade and the easiest way out is to regurgitate what has been taught.

"Once a person is smart enough (above 75%), he/she functions no differently from a higher IQ person. The rest is also training, passion, attitude and the subconscious mind. I found these more important that pure brain power. "

For people with pure brain power, put them in a very unstimulating environment, complacency sets in. I agree. The most important thing is to have the right training, passion, correct attitude and concious mind. By the way, why "subconcious mind"?

"Afterall, Einstein’s IQ was measured at only 70"

Playing devil’s advocate. Was IQ measurement available back then?

Warm Regards

EN

 

 

 

 

Great article! Agree with

Great article! Agree with your perception 🙂

Always a great read... anytime... all the time!

2ppaamm….. your articles are always a great read….. anytime…. all the time!

I have LOTS to learn from you. It’s wonderful to have you around in the forum…

It’s a blessing. 

 bÜds

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