Thanks for sharing!!!

For anyone who’s interested in getting the e-dic, just saw that it’s selling at Challenger. There’s also another new design. Can get it there at a cheaper member’s price!

OK, maybe I should explain why I posted the comments that I did. It was the 24 Jun auction that triggered it. To put the record straight, I wasn’t even present during the auction. It was when I reached home and ran thru the whole proceedings that I formed certain assumptions that prompted me to make the comments.

I didn’t understand WHY throughout the auction, buds kept "advertising" several times to "sell" her just won e-dic that she got the day before, somemore must plus tax…ie. (bid price of 1115 + tax of 198 = 1313). And to me, it seemed that throughout the auction, buds kept increasing the bid price in the hundreds to surpass her "selling" price, which made me think that she was desperately trying to make the bid price higher so that people wld get the e-dic from her. (Click on the Wed 24 Jun auction above and run thru it. You’ll understand what I mean.)

I felt so sorry for titank (and amylqf as well, she played sooo hard that she nearly lost all her points), that someone who had just won the SAME thing had to come in and manipulate the bid price for those 2 poor souls who didn’t have so much points to spare. I don”t think it wld be "fun" for me at all if I REALLY wanted to win the auction but at the same time, won’t loose all my points.

Now I know it’s a misunderstanding and I’m glad that titank has FINALLY got the e-dic.

I must stress again that my comments concerning the 24 Jun auction were meant in jest but I wasn’t good at putting them down in writing. In fact, I didn’t think buds was "greedy" lah, I was just teasing her.   Well, if buds had heard me say it instead, I guess she wouldn’t be so offended.

P/S: Hee…perhaps I should have just "shut up and sit down" and mind my own business.  (My stick-out tongue, meaning "oops!", not "bleh" hor…)

I finally got chance to check out the e-dict. Luckily, they included English version of the manual otherwise I’m doomed. However, sometimes the English version made me so blur, I had to refer to the Chinese version to figure out the steps.

Basically, the manual is straight to the point, after I got the hang of it. I think it has more functions than my DD could use, considering her basic level of Chinese. I asked sashimi to look through the manual too so that we could decide together which functions to teach her first. When she becomes more proficient in Chinese, we’ll teach her more. Hoepfully, sashimi can handle it with no problem cos if DD needs help with it and I’m not around or busy, he can help.

I think my DD should find the following useful:

1. Using HYPY to find the Chinese character. 2. Finding associated words. 3. Learning how to write the Chinese character in the proper order (笔顺). 4. Listening to how the character is pronounced via the bundled earphones.

However, my DD must learn to overcome these 2 main obstacles:

1. Learning to use the e-dict in Chinese as all the functions and display are in Chinese. 2. Getting her Chinese up to a certain standard fast as the definitions are all in Chinese.

So far, she is very keen on learning how to use it, after sashimi has a look at it. At least she can recognise the 开/关 switch on her own. (Phew!)

Buds Team,

Oh what happended after the Friday auction. I don’t think I would really need the E-Dict lah since my kid just in K2. You should keep it to both yr childs so both of them won’t fight. 

Quote RRmummy: Buds ah, Thank you! Thank you.. but I also look so silly out-bidding myself a few times trying to make up for my lagging connections…  

Yah boy…Was surprised when I see you out-bid yourself? Thinking…hmm…following buds footsteps ah…? Now I know also same reason, lagging connections…

Bbuuttt why not? Shiok to be much richer overnight hor…can afford to spluge like nobody’s business liao…heee …But then again, you sure anot? You really want e-dic? What if there’s something better (like logico) down the pipeline? ..oorrrr….zoo pass again?? 

I’m thinking of maybe saving up my points for future…

BTW, Nicole Richie (VERY rich also) is Paris Hilton best friend…

Quote buds: For extreme diligence in trying to earn KPs… For the humility in asking all the questions, over and over again until the titank-er fully understood and became less blur… For the extreme determination to use up those hard-earned KPs to win something of value for the benefit of the titank-er’s child…

Actually hor, I thought amylqf was the one who was extremely diligent in trying to earn KPs? …but of course, titank too, who voted for quite a number of schools and gave several kudos on 24/25 Jun. But I was REALLY impressed with amylqf, she gave kudos to many parents, esp on 21/22 Jun, and writng articles and comments to gain more points for the coming auctions.

And hor, I thought it was amylqf who had the "extreme determination to use up those hard-earned KPs to win something". I thought she was sooo determined to win that she used up nearly all her points on the 24 Jun auction. Seemed to me that titank was not as "hiong" as compared to amylqf. 

But can’t deny the fact that titank asked a lot of questions to make sure he/she? is as clear as crystal regarding the rules of auction.

Since amylqf was successful in bidding for the e-dic, I guess titank wld be the next in line, for being so persistent in these auctions.

Cheers!

Hmmm.. Professional auctioner? Me??

No lah.. you’re being too kind.. Its just a matter of luck & faster e-connection. Thats all

Cheers!

I must commend buds_hubs for his skills in the auctions. Very well played indeed. Think he can become a professional auctioner liao… 😀 (Donno why the animated smilely cldn’t appear in this post?…so used the traditional smilely abreve above. 🙁 ) 

Wah kudos to the buds family you guys are full of surprise and oh so generous and sweet. Congrats titank 🙂

First, jedamum gave away 1111 of her very hard earned KiasuPoints just to give a $360 donation to Charmaine.  Now we have buds and buds_hubs giving away 1542 of their KiasuPoints just so that titank can be guaranteed of a Besta… it may not be Christmas yet, but the spirit of giving is definitely thick in the air!

This has been a pretty rough series so far, with lots of misunderstandings from other members thinking the worst of each other in our rush to gain KiasuPoints.  There’s a lesson to be learnt here: KiasuParents may be "kiasu", but it is our spirit of sharing that sets us apart from those that gave the bad connotation to the word "kiasu".  This is the path that we need to thread on if our nation is to become the gracious and honorable global economy that our children can inherit and build on in their time.  And our Grandmasters are leading the way for us on this path.

Thank you, jedamum, buds, and buds_hubs!

Great news! Am truly happy for titank! Me kaypo, talk so much and kena shoot also because I felt so sorry for titank.

P/S: Me new to forums so not as pro as buds in using smilies…

WOW!! Buds and buds hubs.. you guys are really FULL of surprises!  You guys just never fail to amaze me..  err.. imagine I’m standing here…

Hi all, just to backtrack a little… do read the following history of conversations. Tks!

And since, we’ve recently adopted the quoting the quotations/postings from fellow

members, in our comments i’ll just carry on the trend lor …… Here goes …

My Thoughts

23 Apr 2009 – 8:30am Your status is now "says the Wink to learn DVD is hers for the winning liao. Wuahahaha!!!  (Evil laugh!) … naaah, seriously i ain’t bidding. Grandmaster will pave the way for more deserving parents. ;)"

 bÜds

buds is on the sidelines

Well, mod_toomuch… I think your idea of exchanging your wares for KiasuPoints is definitely creative .  And since buds (our equivalent of rich Paris Hilton in terms of KiasuPoints) has officially declared her intention to stand aside for more "deserving parents", maybe she can be your fairy Godmother if you pitch your "business case" well enough.

ChiefKiasu | Sun, 26/04/2009 – 1:21pm

What?!? Only equivalent to Paris Hilton in terms of KiasuPoints?

Heyya Chief…

"And since buds (our equivalent of rich Paris Hilton in terms of KiasuPoints) has officially declared her intention to stand aside for more "deserving parents", maybe she can be your fairy Godmother if you pitch your "business case" well enough."

Whaddya mean equivalent to Paris Hilton only in terms of KiasuPoints?!?

I am as thin as her in real life…. ermmm… ok, mebbe not too anorexic.

I am as "hawt" as her in real life….. ermmm… NOT! Hahahahaa!

If only here in KiasuParents i get to be thee Paris Hilton… then i’m fine with that, yo! Haha!

Yup, yup people, i’m looking out for genuine interests… so pitch them well. I am also an active user here, so i’ve read almost all the threads here and from these cyber conversations here, i WILL KNOW if you are FAKING it!!! Wuahahahhaa!

Another way to know if you’re gonna win it, is also to seek the creepy inside knowledge of the great Ouija Board…. But, be warned. It may……. just not be true. Wuakakakaa! 😉 http://www.brainjar.com/dhtml/ouija/

 bÜds

So, from this posting history… and our constant observations of the members in our forum, this posting is to announce that the buds family is "finally" able to spring this surprise to a deserving parent amongst us.

It was sheer intense pressure containing our BIG surprise, we tell you…

What more with almost direct gunning down by sunflower, who almost spoiled our surprise… with all the quote after quote after quote in her many comments … which mostly sounded truly unfriendly/negative and a few sarcastic tones plus the "inverted commas" (seriously, you really gotta read it through again.. ) …Sigh… Even our personal friends whom we shared the comments with, found them offensive. Just a note… mebbe more laughing smilies or evil looks wud be better for just-jokin’ kinda comments instead of rolling eyes and the blahh.. But… but… despite feeling a lil offended as well, we let it slide slowly trying to overlook this small hitch, and tried our best to keep up our charade and keep the BIG surprise under wraps aniwaes. And just a last note : There is no limit to fun if it is done responsibly.

The buds family is awarding one BESTA All Pass 1 Chinese e-Dictionary to : titank!

For extreme diligence in trying to earn KPs… For the humility in asking all the questions, over and over again until the titank-er fully understood and became less blur… For the extreme determination to use up those hard-earned KPs to win something of value for the benefit of the titank-er’s child… For all the noted effort, plus not forgetting the true spirit of kiasu-ism that this forum stands for… as well as the fact that this was all done in good spirited fun… 

titank, from the bottom of our hearts… you deserve this prize very much!

*The initial KPs offer for trade was our mere cover-up for this surprise. We hope not that many fishes were sacrificed or harmed (in bloody sword hitting head events)… in our efforts to bring this deserving parent prize.

So, ChiefKiasu… appreciate if you can make the necessary arrangements for titank to collect one of the Chinese e-dictionary from you. Thanks in advance. And thanks to all for an unforgettable-heart-pumping auction week!

Aiya… a few seconds computer lag, if not runner-up already lah…really no luck…

Congrats once again, buds family!

given already woah…

Quote; titank: "Cancel my order lah, let yr 2 kids have it. Maybe I get the conventional chinese dictionary let them learn the fundamental"

I cant help to notice that you have been involved in almost every single auction. I also notice you giving kudos to almost every single post trying to earn KPs…

I really admire you for your determination in trying to win something for the benefit of your children…You have tried your very best despite your slow e-connection!!

Give me a moment OK!!  I’ll be back in a while.

Was wondering where you were too.

But the timing… err… almost caused another ‘court’ case.

Mincy, my 50 KPs leh..

Sollie hor.. b4 anyone assume… … i was only bidding

for the free KPs. Was tied up with both my girls earlier and

joined in late. Didn’t realise wo hen zhun shi… …

Cancel my order lah, let yr 2 kids have it. Maybe I get the conventional chinese dictionary let them learn the fundamental

… for participating in our 1st series of highly experimental Kiasu Auctions.

While the original intent is to make it fun for everyone and to encourage participation, I think this particular marathon series has uncovered some short-falls that we need to re-evaluate the entire process and rules.  We will adjourn for a week to look through the whole process to see what worked and what doesn’t, and try to reduce the complexity of the Auction by removing some of the things which did not work so well.  Our goal is to be able to hold proper Auctions on a fortnightly basis and make them available to as many people as possible.

We will make an announcement by the end of next week.

OK..OK… titank. You really want the e-dictionary is it?

Can I know how old are your children??.

Ya somebody said going offer me at certain KSP.

Congrats, Winth & buds!

Aiyaya, should have post my bid at 1312… *heartpain*

I was typing away too…

thanks

congrats Winth!  Sorry did not notice the family exclusion clause…

j. Runner-Up Award. 25% of the points of the winning bid will be awarded to the 1st Runner Up who is NOT an immediate family relation of the winner, ie. the non-relative who made the next highest valid bid in the Auction. This is intended to help to boost the person’s chance of winning subsequent Kiasu Auctions.

The Runner-Up should be winth (once again!) at 1303.

Reasons:

1. buds cannot be considered because she is family.

2. sunflower’s bid is invalid because it was lower than a previous valid bid.

Pei Fu, Pei Fu!

You two really work well together! Congrats to both of you!

If CKS’ early rules still stand, shouldn’t Sunflower be the first runner up?

Now…Both DDs will have the e-dictionary. hahaha…

Just to be fair mah!!

Wow darkhorses comng out?

Now I am reading with a much clearer light. The bid made must always be within one’s current means. Somehow, the part on “30 minutes after the end of the Auction…” manages to derail me. Thanks for the clarification, Chief.

A game of skill, hmm, I can foresee more fun on the way. *grin*

Chamonix,

The rule "A bid is invalid if the bidder does not have enough KPs to cover it from the point of making the bid till 30mins after the end of the Auction when the payment must be made." is exactly the opposite of what you said.  It means that from the time you make the bid until it is time for you to pay up, you must have sufficient KPs in your account to pay for the item.  We do check the bidder’s KPs at the point of the bid to ensure compliance.

Actually, this discussion is good because it helps clarify various assumptions that people have on Auctions.  It is never easy to give things away to people, that’s why most organizations simply put everything to a game of chance… ie. have people draw lots and see who pick the winner.  We prefer to give it away in a more competitive manner, a game of skill instead.  Naturally, there will have to be more rules to ensure that people play fair.

Congrats RRmummy for your maiden win in this afternoon’s auction…FINALLY! (phew!) Am really happy for you! 

Hi CKS, just to clarify this particular rule –

“A bid is invalid if the bidder does not have enough KPs to cover it from the point of making the bid till 30mins after the end of the Auction when the payment must be made.”

Does it mean I can offer a bid beyond my means anytime during the auction? As long as I can make payment half an hour after the auction ends, I wouldn’t be considered as infringing any rules. Did I get it right?

Not sure if this can be considered as a loophole. For instance, if I bid 300 kps beyond my means and happen to be successful in the auction, I can always put up 3 blog posts within the half an hour to earn the missing 300 kps. Would that be considered as a foul move? Similarly in Jedamum’s case, if I’m the second highest bidder, am I entitled the same privilege as the winner, i.e half an hour to make up my shortfall (should I offer a bid beyond my means)?

Wah…this afternoon’s auction so complicated ah?? Need jury and verdict somemore…

Could only do the first bid…need to rush off for work…aurgg…lunch time auction really not a good time for me…

Verdict:

It is clear that you will need to consider the tax of +500, given your previous win, when making any bid, it is to be assumed that your every bid in the auction is a serious bid with every consequence of a chance to win. And should RRMummy’s bid (after closing of the auctions) be considered an invalid bid, yours is actually the next highest bid Chief Judge will consider. Which in this case, you did have an invalid bid.

However, in view of the current situation, RRMummy did make a valid and winning bid, and your bid came only after RRMummy. So, yours is only a volation of rule 1.

However, become me is an ‘almost’ involved party in the afternoon auction.

My verdict is almost null and invalid…

Awaiting for Chief’s verdict.

… is that the bidders bid to win.  That’s why it is imperative that we stick to the principle that when we bid, we must have prepared to lose the amount we bid.  The tax amount is to be added on every bid that the bidder makes, and if the final bid wins the Auction, so be it.

However, on the account that this point may not have been made clear at the beginning of the Auctions, we will waive jedamum’s 1st timer status and reinstate her right to bid in tonight’s Auction.

Supper sounds good though.  That’s exactly what I’d be having while you guys are sweating away 🙂 .  Enjoy yourselves, everyone.  The Honorable mincy will be presiding over the battleground for the LAST Besta.

Quote buds: …we have refrained using harsh adjectives like, … fight… or…  greedy… to anyone here, even when they’ve seriously crossed our line.

buds ah…you read my last post on previous pg? Me English not so powderful like you, pardon my very limited vocab…so don’t take all this in too seriously literally ok… and as I’ve mentioned before, it’s in a joking tone, which is hard to express in writing… … so no offence intended…and as you say, "take everything in cyberspace with pinch(es) of salt", right? and err…was also feeling sorry for titank lah… Felt that having fun sometimes also need to have some limit…

It’s a clear non-infringement. If anyone can convince me that my above explanation is flawed, I’ll take that time to go out for supper tonight .

In any case, members of the jury should not have any vested interest in the matter at hand – in such case, only moderators have this right to be in the jury.

Anyone?

Quote: A bid is invalid if it is either

• lesser than an already posted bid, or
• if the bidder does not have enough KPs to cover it from the point of making the bid till 30mins after the end of the Auction when the payment must be made

While Jedamum did infringe the first rule, she did not in anyway infringe the second ruling.

 Quote: The winner of the last Kiasu Auction preceding the current Auction will need to pay a tax of +500 KiasuPoints on top of what he/she needs to pay for the winning bid. The bidder must ensure that he/she has enough KiasuPoints in his/her account before making the bid.

It would be intepreted that anyone who had won the auction but after adding the +500 points tax and found to have exceeded the amount of points that they had, such is then considered as an infringement of the regulations. Did Jedamum win this auction? Then why is 500points added to her 1449 bid?

At the point of bidding, jedamum has bid 1449 which is well within her means. At the point of bidding, jedamum’s bid is not the winning bid. Even at the point of bidding and til 30min after the end of the auction, as jedamum’s bid is still not the winning bid, so+500 points should not be computed into her 1449 bid. The runner up award is not the winning bid.

Hence, it can be seen that Jedamum’s infringement is solely on the first point above and that she appeals that if the Panel wishes to amend the ruling, penalty should be mete out after rules are amended and that issues faced in today’s auction should still be based on the ruling made before this afternoon’s auction ends.

The Kiasu Court has convened and decided the following:

Different types of "invalid" bids

A bid is invalid if it is either

• lesser than an already posted bid, or
• if the bidder does not have enough KPs to cover it from the point of making the bid till 30mins after the end of the Auction when the payment must be made.

There is no penalty for the first case, because of the dynamic nature of the Internet and the different access capabilities of the different bidders.

However, the 2nd case is punishable and we need to take punitive action to make sure that future bidders do not make the same mistake again.

In the case being discussed, jedamum has infringed on both counts.  However, since this is the first instance, and she did it while forgetting the "tax" on her, we will adopt a 3-strikes rule applicable to everyone else to manage the punishment.

1st timer – Banned from the next Auction

2nd timer – Banned from the next 4 Auctions

3rd timer – Banned for life

So the sentence we will hand down to jedamum is a ban from bidding in tonight’s final Auction in our marathon.

Quote Jedamum: hm…i can always argue that I had submitted a valid bid at the same time as RRMummy but the system displayed hers first and i don’t mind paying 1449+500penalty =1949…but hey…that still makes an invalid bid cos i dont have that much in the first place!!!

Okok..guys..i own up…it is an INVALID bid. hahaha

Good try Jedamum. But technically not possible as you had a posting right after me.. and there were a few more before your 1449 attempt! 

Eh, u play ‘cheat’ later kena penalty ‘i’ by Chief ah!! 

haha… Thanks for your compliment.

Quoting from Jedamum:

Ya…are you the mummy who threw away the TV and have loads of flashcards?

Huh… I’m sure I’m more than this mar… 

I’m the ghost story-teller too remember? 

Ya…are you the mummy who threw away the TV and have loads of flashcards? i must say you are very diligent! if you can’t find the ‘curriculum’; i think popular bookshop is the next best bet to see what is in P1’s assessment books.

Thanks for recommending the Wushu. We went for Community Clubs one cos 1.budget 2. convenient.

Hm…unlikely to let go of swimming…although he isn’t progressing much, but getting him to ‘swim casually’ outside lessons, he ended up spending it playing water pistol!

You are the winning bidder.

And I’m the 1st runner up???

Meaning those high bidder already had thier dictionary? Wow hope tonite can bid it.

Hi Jedamum,

No leh… I’m teaching him Chinese all by myself. But his Chinese is quite good, he can look at the words once and ‘spell’ out the chinese words with 笔顺, no need to write down type. Then he can read off-hand from story books lor… We also do alot of writing, just that I dunno what the syllabus is so that I will keep to what is required by MOE. Will search for the curriculum you mentioned.

You going for Wushu ah????
I highly recommend XinYing, the current female instructor very good, they teach 弟子规 and lots of basic strokes! It’s really very good! Wushu is very good for disciplining of one’s mind and improving their Chinese too as it will be conducted only in Mandarin.

Now DS1 is preparing for the wushu exams for this coming sunday and i’m his ‘instructor’ for this. It’s quite a SERIOUS type of exam they are going for. Very excited. Actually I’m more proud of him in his wushu than if he were to do well academically. 

I suggest you might wanna let go of his swimming lor… Just bring him swimming as and when you like lar… my boy picked up swimming when we go swimming. Now he can swim and play quite well alone in the water.

Titank,

yes, final bidding for e-dicts tonight. you missing this afternoon’s auction may actually be a blessing in disguise – there are signs that the price of the e-dicts coming down as those who really need it had gotten it. but you must be aware of Darkhorses too – its the element of surprise that makes KSP Auctioning heart pumping.

Me.. Still an infant in kiasu parent forum…..will take some time to be toddler…so i will try my best to post whatever i can..i think with encouragement and morale support will do better as days goes.

Cheers, hdbtaitai8

Tonite is the last bidding, too bad having lunch meeting not able to take part in the auction.

So is 2nd higest bidder would get extra 25% KP’s?

To Winth,

Is your kid currently attending any enrichment? if yes, you shouldn’t worry much. If no, i have no idea how to self-teach chinese so i am of no help (sorry!). For what is available in P1’s syllabus, i vaguely recall MOE used has a list of Chinese Pri sch curriculum pasted on their webpage. Do a search to see if you can locate it. 🙂

To Schellen,

Yes, time is tight for FTWM. For me SAHM, slotting an additional Wushu class for ds (on top of his Chinese and Swimming) is already making logistics a bit problematic.

Think this forum has a lot of talented mummies and daddies around.

Hey, time to share your real money saving schemes with us as getting good articles featured is the easiest way to earn chunks of points within a short time.

jedamum, of course I’m joking lah. Otherwise, I’ll be the one wielding the fish.

After reading what you wrote about the A to B text jump, I think I must schedule in at least one night for Chinese tuition from next week onwards. Sigh…must go read her texts first and decide where to start. Dunno is she lose her playtime or I lose mine.

Both she and I decide not to sign up for enrichment for Chinese for now cos she laready has piano and ballet on weekends, and she can’t attend any lessons on weekdays. As long as she agrees to accept me as her teacher, I think should be okay. For a start, I shall find those foundation Chinese readers that tamarind recommended in the forum. (Considering how basic those books are, I’m sure you can guess how basic her Chinese is.)

Quote: Didn’t realise that invalid bid too…

RRMummy was really sharp…

Hi hi

As i thot only bid 10 kps i kind of left …then realised you wana loan me 1000 kps…so touched! 

Thanks for the spirit in sharing! 

Once again Congrats!

Quote Winth: So I felt that it was a fair win for jedamum as the first runner up.

Read my previous post : my 1449 bid is Invalid cos I dont have 1449+500 to play in the first place.

Chief…give me a chance can?? I didn’t do my math before bidding for the Runner up.

What about that?

hehe…

*dodging fish*

Quote RRMummy: it seems that since jedamum bid 1449 after i had 1450. That would make it an invalid bid right?

hm…i can always argue that I had submitted a valid bid at the same time as RRMummy but the system displayed hers first and i don’t mind paying 1449+500penalty =1949…but hey…that still makes an invalid bid cos i dont have that much in the first place!!!

Okok..guys..i own up…it is an INVALID bid. hahaha

But at least we get that loophole covered already right?

What happened?

How to have a peek into the P1 & P2 text ah?

You just got me real worried that my son’s standard is still not so good yet. I mean e-dict aside, stress again… 

Better go read up in the forums for Chinese liao…

Fish!!! Some one give me some FISH!!!!

Yah hor… how come I never thought of that?!  Sorry jedamum, RRMummy is right… since your bid is invalid, winth is the winner of the Runner-Up Award.

Everyone can now come and hit me on the head with a bloody fish for my stupidity.

Hm…as mentioned yesterday, cos schellen’s dd is my ds’ classmate, my kiasu gene kicked in and think…’ah…cannot lose out ah….’ heehee…but i think schellen knows that i was kidding. now to reply Schellen’s comments…

quote Schellen

Er…. but then hor, your DS1’s Chinese is waaaay above my DD’s. She’s in basic class while he’s in advanced class. So actually hor, I need it more for her to catch with her classmates.

I paid $1200 a year to get him into that class leh…what is another $40 worth of e-dict? anyway, i think he is the bottom few in his ‘advanced’ class.

yes, if M’s foundation is weak, she need to build up fast cos the jump from textbk A and B is very great and the gap will widen as the kids proceed up the levels (as told by ds’ teacher) and if it gets too difficult, the kids may switch off.

Wow, jedamum got so many KPs ah. After winning, still have 1449+500tax? Admiring….

Actually I believe jedamum had outsmart the old-rules as the old rules didn’t say that the first runner-up cannot be a bidder who made a bid after the winning bid…

So I felt that it was a fair win for jedamum as the first runner up.

winth… jedamum did win the Runner-up Award for Auction #6E because the rules before the Auction did not explicitly prevent that case from happening… but the hole is patched up now (hopefully).

Why you need the e-dict?

Is it really really useful?

Really curious ah…

Cheif ah.. as I go thru again.. it seems that since jedamum bid 1449 after i had 1450. That would make it an invalid bid right?

So runner-up should be winth at 1350..

Oh yeah! All these strategies are juz beyond me… more difficult than all the PSLE Math qns la…

Need to strategise liao… 

Congrats to RRMummy!

Yes, that amendment is very fair!! Winth…now we can sit back and relax already.

Chief, I did bid BEFORE the winning bid leh…

can I get the first runner-up award too?

OK… it’s going to be a 1-time trick because I’m going to have to implement another rule that says the Runner-Up Award is only given to be given to the 2nd highest bid posted BEFORE the winning bid.  You gals are too smart for me.

Hey ladies. Thanks!

I’m sure if you gals were really eyeing for it me goner leow..

err.. i think this auctioning thing is getting a little ‘complicated’ for me  

just joking lar…

I know jedamum beat me fair and square…

Congratulations, RR mummy and Jedamum!

Looks like I must work harder to build up my ammunition. 😉

Thanks for the Runner Up award of 362!!

I want to cushion yesterday’s overbid item and 362 bonus effectively bring down my e-dict to the market value of 1299 – between 2nd and 3rd day’s bid.

HEHEHE…

hopefully i won’t snooze away again when my battle starts.

Congratulations, RR mummy….!!! 

It’s always a case of out-smarting each other mar. Important is you did win that moment of glory by using that one time trick.

I’m sure there are more one-time tricks…

HAHAHA!! I finally won something!

I thot I lost to jedamum.. either saw wrongly or forgot what i bid!!! 

Its good to finally get something!! 

Quote Winth : You are really very good in strategising leh

Thanks!! keeps my housewify brain active abit….

Quote CKS (from Forum) : My dears… that’s a very strange way of playing the game leh…

heehee…but the thing is this type of playing is a one time trick. it get exposed to everyone the moment the auction close.

It’s between jedamum and me on who is the runner-up lar

You are really very good in strategising leh

I thought my gamble paid off…

Jedamum, you lost me there..

winth, you are a tough contender too!! 

lolz!!

congrats RRMummy!! Can i take the 25% bonus from you to offset yesterday’s overbid item?

see…it is very easy to get round the system. Chief, time to finetune again!

What is it with using bird phrases? heehee…

butbutbut…it is really killing 2 birds with 1 stone as we can openly (and calmly discussed) ways to finetine the auction process and at the same time, highlight the dangers of having Monthly ‘Realtime’ Chat Thread (see forum topic) as a regular item in KSP Forum.

Not heated up lar… buds know it’s just a suggestion…

Inflation is good but think i think it should maintain at healthy levels…

If US govt keeps printing money, think the whole economy will reach chaotic levels… govt needs to control to achieve a workable yet thriving economy.

TO BUDS: ‘GAHMEN’, my short forms really very bad one… when you said gahmen, I really thot got this author/economist called gahmen… was thinking hard who ‘GAHMEN’ is… then I recalled Mr. Brown used gahmen in place of government. Killed alot of brain cells just now…

Felt it might have reached unhealthy levels when the winners of the auction got to clarify and apologise why they win (huh?), plus exchanges in the previous posts – not very friendly with 话中有话. Think it was alittle cynical when the term ‘greedy’ was used. But on account that it might have all been a HUGE misunderstanding, was hoping to clear the air plus trying to find out the major fault in this auction system that might have led to such unpleasantness.

Winth ah… actually hor.. i was kinda sad after the one of the pipping.. which is what I wanted most.. but now ‘look open’ already lar.. play play for mainly for fun.. if interesting things up for grab then try my luck for the hundredth time lor.. 

Hey people, don’t get so heated up ok… I think I hold the record of KSP MOST PIPPED  

But still all is good.. let’s not let our ‘ugly heads’ get the better of us. Okay? All fren-fren ma…  

Not sore… 

… very upset…

… very angry…  …

… very misunderstood …

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*I can’t see my smilies here… sigh.

Inflation helps non-winner (2nd runner-up) with more points.

So inflation is good lah winth.. But i suppose you wanna save

more points for other good stuff as well right? Heheee.. So,

you prefer > not splurging..

Gahmen oso say inflation in economy will help in the long

run with reserves, right… that’s why as a nation we’re not

doing too bad i suppose. All the taxes we pay are our

future reserves..

My KPs… i’m saving for my retirement. Must start early mah.

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Was discussing with hubby over breakfast this morning about the change in ‘human-behaviour’ over the recent rules and award system in this auction.

winth hb was analysing the ongoings of the auctions and the recent controversies seem to have started after the first bidder awards.

Is 100KPs alittle too much to award? I’m not targetting anyone here lar, just that it might be the cause of all this err… not-too-friendly exchanges. *oops*

100KPs seem alittle disproportionate as compared to the other methods of earning KPs, i.e. upgrade of status (Class Monitor, Grandmaster etc), contributing to the web portal publications, Kiasu Parent Contributor award etc etc… All the above mentioned though are award at 100 to 1000KPs each, they actually need parents to ‘value-add’ into this forum to make it a more vibrant discussion channel for parents. Thot that move was brilliant.

But 100KPs also for a valid bid? He felt that maybe 20KPs might be more proportionate as a way to give newbies ‘free & easy cash’.

People like me (thought i’m not really greedy for the BP lar…) will be enticed. It’s really like ‘no-brainer’ way of earning points leh… I’m not targetting anyone here, really (just sharing winth hb’s comments)

Dun bombard winth hb hor…

He likes to remain low profile type, while I’m like his loudspeaker.

If wanna bombard, can shoot me lar… 

Actually I was really afraid too… But the 1st runner-up award is really too enticing. 

I know Chief is trying to be well-meaning and it is set out to be a consolation prize. But u know what I’m vying for mar… with all this inflation going on… sigh…

Quote jedamum: 1. Tomorrow may be ‘The Battle of the 6 Yr Olds’, with likely contenders chamonix, titank and sunflower vying for the remaining e-dicts as a Pre-P1 registration present for their K2-ers.

AssumeMama ah…my DD2 not K2 hor, only in nursery. E-dic is supposed to be for my DD1, now in P5 for exam use. See, me cannot be compared to all KIASU parents here, PRE-K1 already getting it.

Later if you did accidentally win it, might get shot down for winning it and yet actually NOT NEEDING it…

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Wow jedamum,

Just managed to read all the previous posts just now. You’re really sharp with your observations. Hehe… I dun need the e-dict lar… I’m like the walking chinese dictionary for my boy, so he’s still doing quite well with his Chinese.

I was vying for the 1st runner up last night, but also kiasi bec afraid I might REALLY WIN the auction.

"When Chief set up the audition…"

Got Kiasu Idol contest is it, Chief? 

You don’t say? So, when’s the audition? 

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Yup, old birds have a way of teasing with our smilies which our regulars can understand (our intent) at a glance.    And generally, old birds are the very easy-going ones.   We contribute a bit, TCSS oso got, but we reali joke a lot!    We come here to de-stress and hope to help parents in our own way whether its trafficking… ermmm… apologies…    traffic-policing the huge traffic of newbies, welcoming new parents… or re-directing newbies to their supposed destinations/threads,   or contributing our experiences in parenting and childrens’ academics…  … and all done in good faith and fun.   We also hope to make new acquaintances here… not adversaries.    And by far to my personal recollection of this old bird brain, … we have refrained using harsh adjectives like, … fight… or…  rude … or… greedy… to anyone here, even when they’ve seriously crossed our line. Come here, fren-fren… happy-happy… oni. And look @ the bright side of life. Think positive and life wudn seem so bleak.   And an ol’ bird brain saying goes like this…  … take everything in cyberspace with pinch(es) of salt. Cos with such small talk done here in cyberspace, it’s easy to be misunderstood… as we dunno one another on a personal basis.     If one does not take salt, can also always… ermmm… just pinch yourself lor..

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Quote buds from forum thread: I should LIVE UP to the "label" isn’t it?

Hi buds, still feel sore abt it ah…solli hor…sayang sayang… Don’t take it so seriously leh…Actually, I meant it as a joke, but I guess it’s difficult to "hear" the tone when it’s expressed in writing…

When Chief set up the audition, he purposely make it a minmum of zero KPs to encourage newbie like us to bid knowing all newies have little points.

And there is a " Give Kiasu points" system in place, to loan for biddings as you mentioned.

If you find that newbies get points by assistance with friends is not the correct way, then maybe chief needs to change the rules so that no buddies can bid and no points should be loan.

But i think the intention of the audition is meant to be fun. It is not to encourage feature parent to bid only and left out the newbies.

Chief, nevermind. If she can pass relatively well and not feel demoralised in Chinese class and most importantly, not lose interest in Chinese, I’m happy already. (My Chinese only got better when I started working.)

Don’t raise your hopes too much, schellen.  I’ve had one of those e-dicts for my kid since P2 and I’m still waiting for him to catch up with the top Chinese kids in his class  .

Er…. but then hor, your DS1’s Chinese is waaaay above my DD’s. She’s in basic class while he’s in advanced class. So actually hor, I need it more for her to catch with her classmates.

Sorry, titank! Only saw your post today. I haven’t had a chance yet to check it out cos I have 2 other electronic gadgets to set up first. I’ll give short review here once I actually get around to it.

It is perfectly fine to introduce friends to the website; perhaps you can get them to introduce themselves at the Newbies page so that we can understand more about them.

KiasuParents.com will hold regular auctions where it will give away valuable products to the highest bidders, not with cash, but with KiasuPoints. KiasuPoints are awarded to KiasuParents.com members for their contributions to the KiasuParents.com Portal.

So in a way, when a regular (and i’m not even saying about the old birds) who are earning the points by contributing little by little, cracking her brain to raise her status from normal member to featured parent, when is compared to a member who garnered points with the assistance of friends, who get the shorter end of the stick?

As mentioned before, it is perfectly fine if the loan of points is to help individual newbie friends build up their ksbanks; it takes only one post from them to make their presence and purpose at the Auctions known.

Seriously, i apologise if you feel offended when i state G***; i thought the winking simily is sufficient to show that it is a teaser. Does saying out GTGT seems more polite??

Quote Sunflower: No lah…grandmasters deserve to win..

Quote: jedamum: Aww,,,,thank you for your support!!

You’re most welcome. I like your bidding style. Pro man!

… Dear GTGT, I understand your need to clarify yourself.  Thank you!

As Auctioneer, I get to decide who gets the points and who don’t, and even though jedamum did point out possible "discrepancies", I still gave the points to all those who qualify (which included yourself, Shower and kiw), regardless – and during the Auction itself.  I have access to the full KP transaction history so it is easy for me to verify who transferred KPs to who, so I know you were not related to Shower.  So rest assured that I’m not swayed by hear-say alone.

jedamum was not trying to pull weight here.  She’s just a stickler for rulez  and wants the Auctions to be fair to everyone.  But she just doesn’t have access to the same info that I have.

Let’s just have fun.

We sincerely find that this is a fanatistic websites and too will like to contribute if we can  but being first time mother and fathers, we benefits more from other members contributions.

Do not meant to be offensive but there are certain "old birds" here are trying to pull the weight.

If we have the KPs, why we cannot bid, We are hopping to gain some points for future biddings. We just do it for fun knowing that are miserable points cannot be the winning bids lah.

Hi

Kiw, shower and I are from the same company, in the IT dept so of course our porfolio are the same.

If you look carefully, even though Kiw and Shower have one son each, they are borned in different years so I dont think think you should anyhow assume.

It is ok to assume but please have some valid backup and i think it is quite rude to state : g***. If you are not sure, just say out loud: gtgt. is shower your husband?

This website encourage members to introduce friends and colleagues but if friends and colleagues bid together, it seems that this is discouraged (see Jedamum’ comments above).

By the way, both Kiw and Shower are not rich in KPs. If they are rich, you must be super rich then.

Chief KS,

If have NDP 2009 tickets for KS auction why not? You have any good lobang?

Quote Sunflower: No lah…grandmasters deserve to win..

Aww,,,,thank you for your support!! buds…you hear that?

Quote RRMummy: Still have la.. PT Job as KSP Traffic Warden, KSP Class Monitor

That’s all that I can do…hope can use this as ‘job experience’ in my pv application.

Quote RRMummy: KSP to burn/whack those whose disobeys..

You realised! I have since repent….oil prices on the rise…fish are cheaper. 

AssumeMama working overtime here to bring you the latest, hottest, and most (un)accurate assumptions in the history of KSPAuctions….

Her take on tomorrow’s auction are:-

1. Tomorrow may be ‘The Battle of the 6 Yr Olds’, with likely contenders chamonix, titank and sunflower vying for the remaining e-dicts as a Pre-P1 registration present for their K2-ers.

2. Darkhorse EN and ks2me‘s chance to win is dependent on whether the last 5min’s bid exceed Day 3’s winning bid price.

3. If tomorrow’s ‘bid rate’ is strong and on par with the first 4 day’s escalation rate, will likely contender csc be willing to part more-than-half her points to get a ‘spare’ e-dict? Reader’s discretion, it can be speculated that a basic e-dict like this may not be suitable for her kid’s usage (P6/Sec1 – a more advanced type is preferred by her).

4. Not to forget our RRMummy and Winth; ‘A bird in hand is worth more than 2 in the bush’ – Winth will have to preempt if RRMummy will vy for the Birdpark Passes and decides if she wants to go headon with RRMummy in the ‘Battle of the BirdParkPass’ or settle for the e-dict for her 6 Yr Old. If latter, another contender in ‘The Battle of the 6 Yr Olds’ (See Pt 1).

5. Not to forget our other KSP’s P1 registration expert; Luanee. Another Darkhorse to look out for.

6. Will amylqf participate in tomorrow’s auction in hope of getting the e-dict at cheaper than Day 3’s bid price? Had she sold the e-dict back to the Auctioneer at bid price hence enabling an additional e-dict for bidding on Day 5? Assumemama thinks that amylqf is contented going to the Zoo and is probably keeping her points (after finding out that she’ll be down to 9points if she didn’t sell the e-dict) for other free family outings too.

7. On the side, stay tune to see more friends and relatives reporting in for the goodie bags and points-strapped members vying for the fat bonus that had just propelled an unknown member into the world of New Paris Hilton in Day 4.

The above is brought to you by AssumeMama.com – the (Un)Official Forecaster of KSPAuctions.

Disclaimer : The Above Forecast is solely based on AssumeMama’s assumptions and are to be taken with huge doses of salt.

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Oo…I love my new job!!

… I was nodding off as I typed.  Gotta sleepz liao…  mincy will be presiding over tomorrow night’s Auction.  Good luck everyone.

Chief, Auction is 9-10pm or 9-930pm?

KSP is really accommodating! Chief..I’m lost for words.. you guys are really really super!!

Thank you for being so so..amazing! Thank you for this amazing place to bring together all this amazing people!

 You are so cute, jedamum!!

Still have la.. PT Job as KSP Traffic Warden, KSP Class Monitor, KSP to burn/whack those whose disobeys.. 

You are still much needed and wanted!  And did I say thank you for your great job!

… there will be a 7th Auction in this series: Kiasu Auction #6F, tomorrow night from 9:00pm – 9:30pm.  This will be the final of the series, and for the month of June 2009 (phew! – for moi and the other moderators.)

So there are 2 more chances to win a Besta tomorrow, the originally scheduled one at 12:30pm – 1pm, and a new night Auction at 9:00pm – 9:30pm.

So… titank… don’t miss it!

Congrats jedamum for winning today’s auction and RRmummy for winning the bonus points!

Quote jedamum : But then again, having said that, grandmasters will then be shot down again for having clear headstart advantage.

No lah…grandmasters deserve to win…

I just lost my part time job as a Serious Bidder after this Win’s deduction, so I reckon I better get myself another job at the Auction Parlour as a Postmortemer or Fortune Teller.

Yo AssumeMama, recently you won a Magic Crystal Ball from somewhere izzit? 

Haiyo, can see how many more times I’m gonna get pipped or not? 

Actually, Nevermind so much on the rules la.. after awhile will "look open".. after all fun fun fun is more important ma right… makes the prize even more attractive!!

Quote (in auction forum)

[Quote from Winth]
Thot it’s already valid for this auction?
That’s why I got my friend in to help me.
She not my family lar…

The rules should not be taken at face value. It is meant to stop bidders from having an advantage over the others by garnering in additional help to benefit oneself (one family). If the newbie’s friend’s intention is to help the newbie to gain points to kickstart her own bidding in the future, then it sounds more genuine; to get a friend to help the bidder gain points to win future bids; isn’t it the same intention of getting family members to help?

While there will be loopholes no matter how many times the rules are changed, i think we can do some self-regulating on our part to make Auctioning a more fair one before ChiefKiasu decides to call it a day.

But then again, having said that, grandmasters will then be shot down again for having clear headstart advantage.

Buds hubs, paiseh.. me mountain tortoise.. dunno who’s Nicole Richie.. ..but rich is good, rich is good… 

but err.. not as good as winning KSP auction’s prizes!!! 

I’ll be back!

More Assumptions…

From the accuracy of the timing of the first bid, Winth who had submitted the first bid of the Auction seems to have the upper hand if she sets out to win the e-dic. But AssumeMama assumes that that is not what she is after – the 25% bonus is the candy that Winth is eyeing for to assist her in her Birdpark Auction.

Her accuracy of timing is again apparent from her last bid – timed later than RRMummy’s bid (which is the highest at that moment), but bid amount lower.

But because RRMummy was pipped by Jedamum, she won the 25% bonus instead and hence making her a serious contender in the Birdpark Auction against Winth.

End of Assumptions.

Regds,

AssumeMama

Buds ah, Thank you! Thank you.. but I also look so silly out-bidding myself a few times trying to make up for my lagging connections…   

Quote from Buds

Niwae, jedamum.. dun anyhow assume hor. I didn’t say i bidding for the Bird Park leh.

Sorry for the assumption….I thought your gift to deserving parents still stands? heehee

Niwae, ‘PowerHouse’ denotes "a person, group, team, or the like, having great energy, strength, or potential for success"; it’s undeniable that the Surprises Family has the great energy and potential to success in following auctions if they set out to win – so technically, i didn’t say you bidding hor.

Quote from GTGT (in Auction thread)

dont anyhow assume hor.

wait people thought i got 2 husbands!

Not baseless assumption la…. 2 rich newbies (Shower & kiw) from Information Technology Line, both Daddies of 1 boy – can’t fault AssumeMama’s assumptions right?

Regds,

AssumeMama

Thanks Chief! You guys very generous… Forgotten about the runner-up consolation ‘bonus’..

 But uhh.. KPS auction seems to be getting more and more complicated wohh… with all the new rules and regulations..

buds?  who is buds?  Paris Hilton’s chihuahua? 

No lah.  I really need to change my glasses.  Eye-sight getting poor.  Looks like I need to start on buds hubs’ exercise regime liao.

You sure you all really want?  Hands up all those that want.  We check our kangtaos.

50KPs received with tks, Chief.

You purposely overlook me, aah?

… that we fully understand, Chief… at least for me, i understand that. The word auction simply means, sale in which each article is sold to the highest bidder; in our case using KPs. There isn’t any need to justify auctioning for any item offered at our Kiasu Auctions… Got KPs play, no KPs can still come and chit chat… feel the euphoria of participating in the adrenaline rush of the fun auctions. Ya, cannot beat, I only donated 300KPs so far… not so magnanimous. Ahakz!

Niwae, jedamum.. dun anyhow assume hor. I didn’t say i bidding for the Bird Park leh.

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NDP tickets have money also cannot buy, use KSpoint even difficult….unless CKS have kangtao.

Maybe the next bidding item can be NDP 2009 tickets? 

Bird Park again?Whencan have auction again?

… but don’t forget she has given away her $180 Bird park win as a donation to Charmaine.  That’s hard to beat.

Wow now hit 1661? Maybe tomorrow hit 2000 pts.

RRmummy… 2nd richest lady in KSP…

We already have one Paris hilton aka buds..

So do we call you "Nicole Richie" now??

Pheewwwittt, RRMummy! Well played wor! Steady aah!!!

Congratulations on your "WIN" too, beb!

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… RRMummy is now the 2nd richest lady in KiasuParents.com, after her Runner-up award!  

I think now the top 2 Power House to watch out for next auction/after e-dic are Buds family and RRMummy….

I go check again… may need new glasses.

Sollie… sollie… yuh… I see it now.

Chief, i haven’t received my 50KPs wor..

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Congrats to Jedamum!

Don’t worry…..I have not much points after this auction to participate in future bids.

Desperately need (not want )  this, cos cannot lose out to schellen – our kids are classmates…..

Wow, you’re still very sharp with the bidding!

Pei fu Pei fu…

Buds ah, I thought I’d try my luck to get this..for fun and if can get for free can use for me and kiddos…also my calculated risk for Bird Park seems really really high..

but alas..

I may be wrong but I think jedamum won it once again with 1661 KPs

What a nail biting experience!!!

Once again, CONGRATULATIONS to jedamum on her 4th WIN.

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OK… here are our (hopefully) final Auction rules before this upcoming Auction:

h. Kiasu Auction Bidder Award. To encourage early bidding, bidders that post a compliant bid will be given 100 KiasuPoints immediately during the Auction. This applies only to the first compliant bid posted for each bidder, and to the FIRST member of the family that bids. Subsequent family members that join the bid later will only get 50 KiasuPoints.

i. Last Auction Winner Taxation. The winner of the last Kiasu Auction preceding the current Auction will need to pay a tax of +500 KiasuPoints on top of what he/she needs to pay for the winning bid. The bidder must ensure that he/she has enough KiasuPoints in his/her account before making the bid, otherwise, it will be treated as an invalid bid with a potential outcome of being barred from all future Kiasu Auctions. This rule also applies to all immediate family members of the previous winner participating in the Auction.

j. Runner-Up Award. 25% of the points of the winning bid will be awarded to the 1st Runner Up who is NOT an immediate family relation of the winner, ie. the non-relative who made the next highest valid bid in the Auction. This is intended to help to boost the person’s chance of winning subsequent Kiasu Auctions.

We won’t ban family members from participating in the Auctions, but we have to tighten the process a bit so that other participants don’t feel that they are disadvantaged in any way by bidding alone.

Remember, this is all meant as good clean fun.

Chief KS,

I entilted to 25% of Kiasu Points a not since I’m runner up in the Auction 3?

Guess with the new rules in place make auction more fun.

Dear Sunflower,

No worries…From now onwards.. Lets just focus on the FUN OK!

P/S; I dont earn much lah… Just enough to support my family. Thats all!

Cheers!! 

Hi buds_hubs, my comments not exactly directing at buds lah. Am sorry if it comes across as such. It’s more of my thoughts while observing today’s auction from a third party point of view.

buds_hubs wrote: Quote: [As CKS has mentioned earlier, its all in the spirit of the auction. The whole idea of participating in the auction is for the adreneline rush and its all in the name of FUN.]

Agree that everyone is having fun. Hmm…but for some serious bidders (are there?), maybe they don’t come in JUST for the fun lah…

buds_hubs wrote: Quote […to set your priorities straight… ]

Hee…thanks for your kind advice. Think I should better set my priorities right and spend less time here…

buds_hubs wrote: Quote [Hence, it always makes me wonder how buds does it, despite all the responsibilities of a SAHM ie. housework, cooking, teaching the children, completing her "freelance projects" [making real money], doing social work and volunteering and yet still have time to contribute so much to the KSP family.]

Yes, am truly impressed. Being a SAHM myself and doing freelancing (need to earn extra cash to survive, my hubby doesn’t earn as much as you mah), I find that I’m really pressed for time. Hey buds, care to share your secrets?

CKS, I think that the new rules are good but here is just a suggestion for the "Honourable CKS" to consider:

Dear sunflower,

I am sorry to step in like this, but after reading all your comments about buds… despite preparing for trials and other mountain loads of work, I think as her hubs i really have to intervene.

As CKS has mentioned earlier, its all in the spirit of the auction. The whole idea of participating in the auction is for the adreneline rush and its all in the name of FUN.

Remember CKS is giving 100 FREE KPs for a valid bid irregardless whether or not you win the item. With the new rule in place ie: runner up will get 25% of the winning bid… Its a NO BRAINER why anyone would want to give the auction a miss. In fact, there were/had been so many bidders who just came in for the FUN & FREE 100 KPs and had no serious intention of winning the item since the auctions first begun. (Happy Happy Mah!!) 

Quote : sunflower

"I don’t think I can contribute as much in my limited time, compounded with my slow speed of typing and thinking…"

It is rather unfortunate that you had to miss the auction due to your "freelance" work or family commitments. As a "full time" working parent, I understand that whatever you’re doing is far more important than winning the e-dictionary. My "KUDOS" to you for still having time to contribute to the forum despite your limited time, slow typing speed & thinking.

Quote : sunflower

"As I work freelance, time spent in the forum means time taken away from making "real" money…so the points gained do cost…and I sometimes get so hooked that I neglect my work/family. Hmm…must control and learn time management….."

However, If you feel that your time spent in the forum is taking away your time spent with family or time making "real" money, I would advise you… ie: to set your priorities straight… DO NOT get hooked at the expense of spending quality time with your family or allow your work to be affected. As you’ve mentioned, must learn to control and have BETTER time management… which i know is not an easy task to accomplish. Hence, it always makes me wonder how buds does it, despite all the responsibilities of a SAHM ie. housework, cooking, teaching the children, completing her "freelance projects" [making real money], doing social work and volunteering and yet still have time to contribute so much to the KSP family.

Quote : sunflower

"must learn… how to type very fast from buds liao…"

And YES! It’s true, i do agree that buds types really really fast! Faster than me! But sad to say, that last I heard she wasn’t giving any typing lessons.

Aniway, as many of the other KSP family members know and understand; about buds and i… WE are full of SURPRISES kinda people. 

In response to the comments made so far, we have decided to make the following addition to the Kiasu Auction Rules.  As we have said before, we are still learning and fine-tuning the system to make it as fair and fun as possible for all participants.

"j. Runner-Up Award. 25% of the points of the winning bid will be awarded to the Runner Up, ie. the person who made the 2nd highest valid bid in the Auction. This should help to boost the person’s chance of winning subsequent Kiasu Auctions."

This means that there are really no losers who participate in the Auctions.  Everyone will get an additional 100KPs for future Auctions, and the one that gets pipped will get an additional 25% worth of KPs.  Hopefully, this will allow the Runner Up to win future Auctions.

As a result of this new rule, however, we realized we need another rule to prevent its abuse:

"k. Anti-Pak-Up Rule. To prevent cases where members of the same family end up being winner and 1st runner up, only 1 member of each family is allowed to participate in any specific Kiasu Auction at the same time."

Gee… this thing is getting complex 

buds wrote: Quote [But it still beats buying it with real $$$ off the shelves, right?

Oso got adrenaline rush mah..

Getting it for free..]

Yea, agree with the adrenaline rush… as for getting it for free…maybe not for me lah…literally speaking. As I work freelance, time spent in the forum means time taken away from making "real" money…so the points gained do cost…and I sometimes get so hooked that I neglect my work/family. Hmm…must control and learn time management / how to type very fast from buds liao…

buds wrote: Quote: [… but… but… but… I’m not that noble either, kiw. i did offer mine at a higher bid to round off the total to an odd number, for the main reason i reali LIKE odd numbers..]

Yah lor…1115 (bid price) + 198 (profit) = 1313 mah…

Aiyo…buds ah…you don’t need the e-dic than don’t fight with people who truly need it mah…give people chance lah…titank seems to want it badly leh…

Yes, agree with Chief that buds, and jedamum as well that they’ve earned the points that they truly deserve, and that they are selfless in contributing much of their time and effort in this forum. Kudos to them! I don’t think I can contribute as much with my limited time, compounded with my slow speed of typing & thinking.

No offence hor buds…  and hope you’re successful in trading your newly won (one?) e-dic(s)…

Kiw, I thought bud post in the auction forum that she would sell it with “1313 KPs with tax”. Therefore I offer 200KP above the bidding price as my tax. I thought that was reasonable for the effort and time that I have put in.

Well, If anyone really need the dictionary for the child, I have no problem selling it with my original bidding price 1500KP.
The most important is that we are enjoying the fun in auction.

KiasuParents.com holds Auctions primarily as a means of giving back to the community what it has contributed to our Portal.  Members with large caches of KiasuPoints are those who have really earned it, and we are using the KPs as a generic means of distributing whatever goodies we can get our hands on to deserving members.

1. There is no such thing as "greed" in our Auctions, because if you want the item, and have enough KPs to spend on it, there is no reason why you should not be able to get it.  This is the reason why we choose not to ban repeat winners from the Auctions.

2. The final bid price is an indicator of the community’s perceived interest in the item.  If lots of people want it, then it will automatically be high, and affordable only by those who have enough KPs because of their contributions to KiasuParents.com.  The winner of such an Auction will likely have depleted most of his/her KPs, automatically making him/her ineligible for future Auctions unless there are more contributions.  So this will meet our objective of getting quality content from the community, which benefits everyone.

3. When someone has won an item, the item belongs to the person.  It is entirely up to the person what he/she wants to do with it, to use it, or to sell it away for money or something else.  We do not control that process, but perhaps it should have been done in the Trading Post.

Just a note about buds – she was clearly doing the bidding for fun!  In fact, she gave KPs to titank to continue her fight with amylqf.  I think that is already a clear indication of her intent.  And we should all know how selfless she has been in teaching the community how to work with our children more effectively.

Hope this addresses some of the heavier issues surfaced today.

Aiyo…like that dominated by grandmaster aka spiritual leader, am thinking twice now whether I should "waste" my time/points in the auction.   I’ll probably get my DD1 to borrow her cousin’s older model e-dic after her PSLE this year. If not, also can get the latest model thru my DD1’s school at a heavily subsidised rate… I think Besta goes to the various school to promote…got a flyer from them thru the school before…didn’t buy at that time as I didn’t know P5/6 can use e-dic in exam.

Was reading thru today’s auction that I missed. Gosh…not in real time also send my heart goes pumping faster…Wah!…didn’t know buds so greedy one… hubby won one yesterday aredi still want to fight with people to get one more…

But it still beats buying it with real $$$ off the shelves, right?

Oso got adrenaline rush mah..

Getting it for free..

 bÜds

the experience/feeling of personally winning an auction is very different from ‘buying’ it from someone else….what’s that term again? ya…it’s priceless .

amylqf,

congrats on your win. 🙂

schellen,

How is this "Wasabi Dictionary"? Please let have your review hopefully can see whether going to participate in the next 2 auction.

… but… but… but… I’m not that noble either, kiw.

i did offer mine at a higher bid to round off the

total to an odd number, for the main reason i

reali LIKE odd numbers..

hehehehee..

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Thank you for all the well wishes! Sorry I took so long to respond. Actually, sashimi only collected it yesterday morning so I haven’t looked at it yet. DD is with my MIL so she also hasn’t seen it yet. At first, I thought spending 1111KPs on an auction was really a lot but after seeing the last two auctions…..

I know having DD using this at P1 is a bit early but I have taught her how to use the traditional book-dictionary and it’s really very time-consuming, especially since her Chinese is really basic. And I’m afraid it may make her feel even worse about her basic Chinese skills. Plus, she picks up IT skills very fast so hopefully, this will help boost her Chinese skills.

Oh really no discount? The staff told me have? Maybe new staff I think!

titank, aah… she said 1700 leh… not 1717.

and just now you mentioned you were going

to return me 1000KPs instead of 100KPs.

You like adding extra numbers hor..

Nevermind titank, specially for you…

the trade off for my set will be 1212 only.

Consider that i am not asking for the 100KPs

that i gave you earlier to play on, you can keep it.

For the rest… the 1313 KPs still stand. 

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dont mend to be nasty but amylqf ,by selling at 1700KP, you seems to be trying to profit out of this auditon.

less than an hour you have won the bid, u r trying to sell it off 200kpi above what u bid for!

if u change yr mind, u should be like bud, to sell at the KP u bid for. it is not fair to other bidders

No lah… the Besta dictionary counter may be in Popular, but the 20% discount doesn’t apply to it.  So it is still $39.90

Wow you 1717? buds said she offer at 1313.

Ya if my PC not short short maybe can win her liao 🙁

Congrats, amylqf!

Played down to almost nothing wor..

Ya loh, maybe wait until end of Friday see anyone offering some clearence sale.

Heard Popular sell at $39.90.Maybe I can use the extra voucher of 20% get the discount by end of June 09. 

yah, loh. Didn’t realized that I play so hard until no KP left to play anymore.

Since I win before, would like to give the chance to others.
If anyone or titank still interested the set, I can exchange the set with 1700 KP.

Hi amylqf! Congratulations on ur second win.

Titank ah, haiz.. our luck same-same.. play-play but still get nothing yet.. 

The bids here are rising at an exponential rate.

Inflation much higher than Singapore economy woh…

Yes, Chief! I posted up the 100KPs for titank to play

after it confirmed titank has received 100KPs from buds.

And yes, offer for trade off of 1313 KPs still open till Friday.

No need auction one.

So…

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Ya maybe the next round I bid 2000 KPS

Titank, hope you win next round!

amylqf!

Once again… titank was sooo close… but PC "short-circuited" at the last possible moment (worst possible?) .  I feel your pain, titank… but hey, you’ve got some comfort KPs from buds (I think).  amylqf went all out… she’s only got 9 KPs left after this.

Buds,

Thanks yeah. Returning you 100 points. So you going to trade off at 1313?

titank, nevermind, still have 2 more sets up for grabs, jia you and all the best to you tmr

Congrats, amylqf

so exciting.

the bids increase so much faster than the previous few auctions.

CONGRATULATIONS, amylqf!

Wah lau the PC short circuit, if not can get the dictionary liao.

CONGRATULATIONS, amylqf! On your 2nd win!

She’s broke now you guys, so no chance of seeing here

vie anytime so soon. Ahakz!

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Ya, forgot you said you are the dragon! aiya, when it comes to this animal, alittle bit sensitive mar.

Buds really DO have what it takes to vy for the title of Mrs Singapore!!

Wa… Maybe someday chief should hold some ks beauty contest…

Then the winner gets 2D1N Hotel stay cum buffet breakfast!

OH NO!

"Woit, jedamum.. dun like that give me away leh..

We’re supposed to be anonymous in cyberspace wor..

Cannot blow ma cover mah..Ok?" [Quote]

But but but…isn’t comments on cyberspace supposed to be taken with a pinch of salt in the first place? It remains unverified until you confirmed it yourself!

Since the truth is out, I have yet another tidbit for the KS community…

Buds really DO have what it takes to vy for the title of Mrs Singapore!!

It’s no wonder she can make Buds_hubs weak in the knees then and now.

Ok…i’d said too much.

Ah-la-mak, winth! Real or not YOU! Wuakakakakaa!

Oh no no no… I’m all of that dragon, sista. Remember?

Chief is the horse. But I’m getting hoarse now trying to

get to you on this..   I hail from the west and we always

associate ourselves with horses. Us westies formed the

biggest club in KSP – "Wild Wild West"… being cowgirls

and all… so its figure of speech lah, girl… funny lah you!

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Its Ok to be Rare Breed mah!!

As long as we’re not of "ILL BREED"… Ahakz!

And winth, for the record, we’re not HORSES!!

Night everyone!

Going to bed liao.

See you guys tomorrow at lunch auction. *Hopefully I remember* 

…… if one is talking cars (like RRMummy and MLR)…….

I should be able to fall into the continental cars category!

Pheeewiiit! Steady pom-pi-pii leh..! We’re talking Lamborghini,

Porsche and Ferrari here… Oit, not Ferrero Rocher hor! Atas a bit!

For those who dig Phonics, it should sound FUR-RAH-REEE hokay!

Kekekekekekeh!  

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You’re a HORSE???

I’m the horsie with the rare mixed-breed..

Yee-hah!! The Westies has a lotta beauties.

And we’ve been winning all the trophies.

jedamum.. schellen.. buds & hubs tag team..

Kahkahkah!  

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Took coffee just now to attend auction mar…

Now starting to get more and more awake

DH lar, said wanted to go out later when DS2 sleeps.

Then change mind liao. Purposely do up my hair for nothing!

We going to catch Transformers sneak preview tomorrow night instead.

I guess you are probably right..

buds is way prettier than Ms Singapore..

buds not chinese!!!

With all the hokkien-type abbreviations and infamous laughter (wuakakakah), she not chinese???

buds, you guys have alot of surprises one leh…

winth, no need to go to sleep early today aah?

Coming to 10:30pm oredi leh.. hehee!

 bÜds

"buds hubs, congratulations. Now i know that you are chinese…..

or that buds took chinese as her mother tongue language…"

Woit, jedamum.. dun like that give me away leh..

We’re supposed to be anonymous in cyberspace wor..

Cannot blow ma cover mah..Ok?

If not, ermmm..  I dun friend you lor.

KSIA… Kam-sia in advance.

(KSIA : New abbreviation!) Wuakakakah!

 bÜds

The e-dic is more for buds hubs’ improvement in this case, ahakz!     But

from business point of view, we can consider parting with it to the person who

exchanges it for 1313KPs, (ONLY KPs mah… not cash) inclusive of KS TAX

ala (GST)… Cos we bid till win already mah.. (I dunno… I just like odd

numbers..)   Saves one the trouble of bidding for it with all that

adrenaline rush and not guaranteed a win.

Save those heart palpitations and stay healthy!

 bÜds

Personal opinion onli… 

As winth said, electronic stuff will have better and improved versions later. I feel children should learn how to use the traditional dictionary first…

If buds is Ms Singapore or "Mrs" Singapore, then I must be Manhunt Singapore!! 

You should go see see the story buds hubs wrote.

Think should be a cutie!  Gave buds hubs weak knees and everything. Zack could witness to that!

Wow is buds Ms Singapore?

Hmmm… I guess buds will doing the collection. 

K2 I thought only learning to write.

Dun even learn enuff words to go check dictionery ah…

Oh thought can let them use in Kindergarten 2? The kindergarten already ask them to buy dictionary.

Yap, agree with winth. E-dictionary more suitable for current P5/6 exam use.

Wa, now chief gets to meet the beautiful chick (buds) and her six-packed beau (buds hubs)!

Actually if your child going P1 only next year, should wait till newer versions to come mar.

Hmmm.. jedamum,, thats a great idea !!

Maybe buds & I should try again tomorrow!

Hi titank,

Think we need to read more on how to earn kiasupoints 😉 Just realised I won’t be around to join in the fun tomorrow. Good luck!

Winth,

Ya take my mind off sometime for the P1 registration. Seriously speaking th dictionary suitable for P1?

Really great teamwork there!

Hmm, maybe I should also engage hubby’s help 😛 just joking

>>>Hmm… husband and wife show?  Wonder who gets the credit for giving the e-dictionary to DD? [quote]

Chief, maybe they are gunning for 2 e-dictionaries since they have 2 dds.

Buds hubs, congratulations. Now I know that you are chinese….or that buds took chinese as her mother tongue language.

Should have a good chance tomorrow lar!

Congrats buds_hubs. Great team work! Cheers!

Its a great adreneline rush to bid in the KSP auction.

buds and I planned to enter at the last minute but just in time to get free 100KPs from chief.

We complemented each other by checking out what was the highest bid and at the same time, I virtually counted the seconds before submitting final bid.

What can i say, buds and I make a great team!!  

You won’t believe it – I just happened to drop by the forum at the last time. The auction slipped off my mind completely. 🙁

Now I am gearing up for tomorrow’s “fight” 🙂

titank, gd luck to you tomorrow. Me got work commitment so can’t join in the fun…:( …So…you less one contender..hee..

Congrats! to Buds hub ! Wow husband and wife tem leh…good team work!  titank, all the best for tomorrow…

Congrats to buds hubs!

Thot you just play play onli.

Didn’t know you’re serious about the e-dictionary.

Wow like wrestling form tag team to fight for the dictionary..

… titank ah, just loosen your KiasuPoints purse strings… I’m sure you can get it eventually 🙂

buds_hubs!  Congratulations!  

An interesting Auction where we can see chamonix suddenly coming in 2 minutes before the end… and then buds and buds_hubs were bidding against each other?!  Hmm… husband and wife show?  Wonder who gets the credit for giving the e-dictionary to DD?

Wow 2nd set also no chance get.Tomolo die die must get the 3rd set.

Chief aah.. i didn’t get out-clawed leh.

Just making kind gesture way for schellen.

I still get 100 KPs for being kind mah.

Enuf for me.

 bÜds

what a exciting event 

kudos to everyone that joins in the fun..Hope to participate in near future 

Congrats! 1111 ks points a little difficult for me to part with for a besta chinese dictionary… I already have two at home … may try to get a "spare" one this Friday… but within my budgeted points.

I would love to get the more advanced Besta Dictionary -those pricey ones! ?Any ‘kangtao" , Chief??

You must be delirious to get what you yearn for!  Well done! 

I reckon if you are auctioning for something you want, it should be fun especially with points earned.  Unfortunately, I already have this, so cannot join in the fun yet.  I am waiting for the young scientists subscription….anytime soon??? me….

Sunflower, fun eh!! But I think gotta be one of the bidders than shiok.. today no adrenalin rush for me.. 

Congrats Schellen. 🙂

Roar!!!

Yup mincy, like you I noticed the familiarity of the magic number..

Think buy 4D, they won’t accept.. 

Boy, really 紧张 man. Still catching my breath…need to be super fast and have strong heart to tahan all this… 😛

ho ho ho… thanks, was super  excited. any one notice that 1111 kps is the winning bid for both this and the previous auction.? I think  can go buy 4D or toto already…

Congrats! schellen!

Mincy, so how do you like the adrenalin rush? 

You did well! Congratulations on surviving your first autioneering too!

Congrats Schellen! Very exciting auction everyone!

Well done… you managed to claw buds out of contention 

Congrats schellen, for winning the 1st day auction of the e-dictionary. Cheers!

Hey Schellen,

Congratulations.. that was a close shave.. had titank put in a higher bid in her correction, u kena pip leow!

Great way to start the working days after your vacation eh! 

Congrats! schellen!

CONGRATULATIONS, schellen on winning the 1st dictionary!

 bÜds