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PSLE levels playing field

Postby raysusan » Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:53 am

MINISTER Mentor Lee Kuan Yew has acknowledged that admission to primary school is not meritocratic, since a child's background plays a role in it.

'That's inevitable in any society,' he said after a visit to Raffles Girls' Primary School (RGPS) on Friday afternoon, where he disclosed that he had visited Punggol Primary the previous day.

'At the primary stage, the choice is not made in a uniform way. You have a brother there or sister there, your father or mother is an alumnus, and so on.

'So it's not meritocratic; it's based on the social class of your parents, whether they went into better schools.'

Still, Mr Lee argued that the Primary School Leaving Examination (PSLE) levels the playing field, allowing bright pupils from disadvantaged backgrounds to attend good schools.

'The important thing is that, at Primary 6, there should be a sorting out. And those who missed going to the good schools should get into better secondary schools.'

Read the full story in Saturday's edition of The Straits Times.


http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNew ... 02577.html

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Re: PSLE levels playing field

Postby chrisu » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:59 am

How to define "Good Schools" and "Better Secondary Schools"? By their number of A1s and Distinction?

raysusan wrote:
'The important thing is that, at Primary 6, there should be a sorting out. And those who missed going to the good schools should get into better secondary schools.'



http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNew ... 02577.html

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Postby Big fish » Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:38 pm

Hee hee, I think you see the postal code. :dancing:

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Postby Daddy D » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:37 pm

took him quite some time to acknowledge this...
there goes our pledge "...based on justice and EQUALITY..."

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Postby autolycus » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:07 pm

There is equality of opportunity, but not equality of resources. It is like saying, "Hey, you are all running on the same track, but it is unavoidable that some of you have track shoes and training coaches and so on, but some of you don't."

And the thing is, he's right. There are no societies which have perfect equality because that's not human, and would probably be harmful. It is a consequence of the second law of thermodynamics — without gradients, no work can be done.

I think helping the disadvantaged is laudable. But levelling the players is not. The playing field is already levelled. Frankly, a school like RGPS does well because its clients begin with a higher average resource level, not because it is a better school. Those with fewer resources whose kids go to RGPS do well because they are exposed to a resource rich environment.

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Postby Daddy D » Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:45 am

Most if not all parents would want their kids to have the best headstart... the 6 years lapse till PSLE makes quite a difference on whether our kids go up the social ladder or remain at the bottom...
Those already on top of the social ladder wouldn't understand...

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Postby janet88 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:54 am

Daddy D wrote:Most if not all parents would want their kids to have the best headstart... the 6 years lapse till PSLE makes quite a difference on whether our kids go up the social ladder or remain at the bottom...
Those already on top of the social ladder wouldn't understand...


99% parents would want their kids to have a good headstart, esp for primary school...which is the foundation. After successfully getting into that choice school, parents will do their best to coach, groom their children. Kids have to mature :pray: and work hard on their own to get into good secondary schools. Of course those who are in the high rank of social ladder will never understand those who are at the bottom or even the mid level.

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Postby Daddy D » Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:19 pm

janet_lee88 wrote:
Daddy D wrote:Most if not all parents would want their kids to have the best headstart... the 6 years lapse till PSLE makes quite a difference on whether our kids go up the social ladder or remain at the bottom...
Those already on top of the social ladder wouldn't understand...


99% parents would want their kids to have a good headstart, esp for primary school...which is the foundation. After successfully getting into that choice school, parents will do their best to coach, groom their children. Kids have to mature :pray: and work hard on their own to get into good secondary schools. Of course those who are in the high rank of social ladder will never understand those who are at the bottom or even the mid level.


Next time they cannot use the "all pri schools are the same" argument...

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Postby starlight1968sg » Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:45 pm

Parents can do something on the choices of primary school. For instance, some parents move so that they can be nearer to certain famous schools. Others do PV etc to get a priority in registering their kids. So parents can have some influence on this issue.

When comes to sec schools, parents have no say because it is all about their kid's performance in PSLE or some other talents.

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Postby verykiasu2010 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:33 pm

all the schools are still the same, even the books are the same

only the teachers are different, how there teach, how they behave, are different; and of course the kids are different in one school from another
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