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How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work

Postby verykiasu2010 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:45 am

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/busin ... ral&src=me

How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work

.....and some lessons for Singapore
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Re: How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work

Postby iRabbit » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:31 am

Interesting but disconcerting read for me - can feel my vulnerability.

Next time must make sure ds doesn't end up in engineering - so insecure when one reaches middle age.

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Re: How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work

Postby laughingcat » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:58 pm

I see it as this way. One can still become an engineer but must be mobile and flexible. Whichever countries requires engineer, just move.

This particular sentence said it all "Modernization has always some kind of jobs to chane and disappear" as quote in page 5.

SGP government must also play an important role as well by safeguarding the midwage jobs. If we don't do anything about it, it is not surprise we might ended like US, Europe and Japan middle-class segment. That is vulnerable.

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Re: How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work

Postby 3Boys » Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:31 pm

laughingcat wrote:
SGP government must also play an important role as well by safeguarding the midwage jobs. If we don't do anything about it, it is not surprise we might ended like US, Europe and Japan middle-class segment. That is vulnerable.


You miss the point of the post.

The g'ment can do little if the citizenry don't play their part. These jobs are fully dependent on industry, and industry vote with their feet when it comes to finding workers who can work harder, longer, cheaper and faster. Its that simple.

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Re: How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work

Postby laughingcat » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:38 am

No i disagreed. The top must lead and set the ground for army ants to lead. Not the other way. That is what EDB is for, always garning companies to set up in SGP and garning the right package for these companies to stay in SGP. It has always been like that.

Cannot have such mindset "very difficult and hence cannot work" or "little can be done". Then what is the point of having able government for? Paid so high must do something right?

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Re: How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work

Postby 3Boys » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:24 am

laughingcat wrote:No i disagreed. The top must lead and set the ground for army ants to lead. Not the other way. That is what EDB is for, always garning companies to set up in SGP and garning the right package for these companies to stay in SGP. It has always been like that.

Cannot have such mindset "very difficult and hence cannot work" or "little can be done". Then what is the point of having able government for? Paid so high must do something right?


Of course.

But do you then believe this matter is ENTIRELY in the hands of the EDB then? The citizens have no role to play whatsoever?

If Apple were better able to mobilise workers in Singapore, why are they making phones out of China then? Are you proposing we should be using taxpayers money to subsidise Apple iPhones by providing huge incentives?

What is the role of the Singapore worker here?

My view. The EDB can throw all the money it wants, if the companies who set up shop here can't get the correct level of productivity and innovation out of the workforce here, they will just decamp once the incentives run out.

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Re: How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work

Postby laughingcat » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:40 pm

Come on lah. Everything takes 2 hands to clap. Have you ever seen anybody clap with 1 hand only? Literally with sounds and really clapping a sounds? But at the end of the day, someone must lead. So who is to lead? Obviously the government lah. Otherwise people vote for what? If the leader don't provide and pave the way, how else can Singaporean work for the economy?

Why can't any leader work like LKY? Bringing in opportunities for Singaporean in those hey days.

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Re: How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work

Postby 3Boys » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:58 pm

laughingcat wrote:Come on lah. Everything takes 2 hands to clap. Have you ever seen anybody clap with 1 hand only? Literally with sounds and really clapping a sounds? But at the end of the day, someone must lead. So who is to lead? Obviously the government lah. Otherwise people vote for what? If the leader don't provide and pave the way, how else can Singaporean work for the economy?

Why can't any leader work like LKY? Bringing in opportunities for Singaporean in those hey days.


Of course a leader must lead lar, but will the people follow? Or will they threaten them at the ballot box?

LKY's time? We were a low cost production centre, people willing to make sacrifices. You don't agree with him, you get a big knock on your head, or kena ISA. Interval between buses 30 minutes, no aircon, bus drive swear at you, no one complain. Bukit Timah whole road flood, people also stoic.

Now, must kiss babies, cannot offend people with comments. Not happy, set your MP on fire. MRT 20 minute delay is page 3 news, Liat Towers basement flood become top internet item.

Last time policeman wear shorts, hor? Last time, China and Vietnam communist country, India anti-industry, Eastern Europe under Soviet thumb. Now, who are you competing against?

Everything g'ment, citizens no responsibilities ar? If country not made up of its people, then what?

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Re: How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work

Postby verykiasu2010 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:20 pm

3Boys wrote:
If country not made up of its people, then what?


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Re: How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work

Postby laughingcat » Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:09 pm

verykiasu2010 wrote:
3Boys wrote:
If country not made up of its people, then what?


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:rotflmao: totally hilarious

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