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Pilot or Stewardess?

Postby 3Boys » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:05 pm

Post PE, hope you don't mind if I pontificate on my thoughts on the expectations of leadership.

Indulge me an example if you may.

As you fly on an airline, you have the aircrew looking after your needs. Typically, they are the flight crew (pilots, flight engineers if any), and cabin crew (stewards/stewardesses).

I would assume the expectations from the passengers are quite different for each category.

The pilot is a highly trained individual, with specific technical abilities. His job is to make the flight plan, calculate fuel loads, understand weather conditions. His job is to fly the jet from point A to point B in the safest way possible, to react to changes quickly and adeptly, and if by the way he can do it using less fuel, so much the better. If he loses concentration and botches his job, the outcome for the passengers are likely to be severe.

If the pilot does his job well. No one even notices it, no one goes up to the cockpit and says Thank You!

The cabin crew, on the other hand, serves the passengers. The get meals, stuff for the kids, blankets etc.

If the stewardesses don't connect with the people (I mean passengers), the next thing you know there are bad comments in the Straits Times or Skytrax. There are FAR more comments on inflight service from passengers than there is on fight quality.

Which, however, is the more critical?

We expect ALL our MPs to be 'people' oriented? Actually, I don't want my pilots walking up and down the cabin asking whether the seats are comfortable, the food is good, inflight entertainment up to scratch. I want him to be FLYING the d*** airplane! I couldn't care if he was the rudest, gruffest person on the planet.

But we seem to expect, in the OTHER thread, that in order to be electable, the MP MUST be people oriented, ahead of other every single criteria.

If we want persons more suited to be stewards/desses to be flying our planes, I reckon we are courting catastrophe.

Which is why I think Singaporeans have got our priorities backwards.

BUT, to a large extent, it was the PAP that created this monster They reacted to electoral losses in the past by trying to grind the opposition into the ground on LOCAL issues, by sheer weight of organisational might. AIM etc is a direct result of that approach. So it's hard to feel sorry for the MIW on that count.

But lets not get to the point where we are saying "I don't want more doctors/lawyers/technocrat in parliament." I think having some rank and file representation is important, but lets not allow that to be the main or only criteria to be electable.

Apart from cabin crew, we need some stoic, aloof flight crew too.

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Re: Pilot or Stewardess?

Postby 3Boys » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:13 pm

And when the discussion degenerates into "Oh LLL is so cute with her gap in her teeth.", "KPK looks so yaya.", the we are really talking about the basest levels of politics. Can you be surprised then that parties are apprehensive about fielding minority candidates?

If one wants to talk about a maturing electorate, then we need to move past such childish juvenile comments.

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Re: Pilot or Stewardess?

Postby Harlequin » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:20 pm

Ai ya, 3B.... Why you always like to make people think hard?

People only want to be served and enjoy their flights; encounter turbulence is the pilot's duty to gao tim, if not, then they go complain! Since when any one knows how to fly a plane? But that fact doesn't humble anyone.....

Now the cattle class already are complaining why there are business class and the damn first class, if you dare tell them return cattle class ticket to NY cost $1.9k but first class is paying $19k and business class $12K, you would get yourself thrown out of the plane in no time :wink:

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Re: Pilot or Stewardess?

Postby 3Boys » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:30 pm

Harlequin wrote:Ai ya, 3B.... Why you always like to make people think hard?

People only want to be served and enjoy their flights; encounter turbulence is the pilot's duty to gao tim, if not, then they go complain! Since when any one knows how to fly a plane? But that fact doesn't humble anyone.....

Now the cattle class already are complaining why there are business class and the damn first class, if you dare tell them return cattle class ticket to NY cost $1.9k but first class is paying $19k and business class $12K, you would get yourself thrown out of the plane in no time :wink:


It's troubling that as KSPs, we KPKB about the education system and engender all forms of enrichment, and in the event our children become successful, they effectively rule themselves out from entering public leadership.

The way I see it, it's just selfish interest. "I want my kids to be the Doctor/Lawyer, but in the meantime until they get there, I want someone who is like me who will serve my needs in parliament, who cares if he can do anything else other then voicing my concerns."

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Re: Pilot or Stewardess?

Postby Harlequin » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:54 pm

Singapore is a myopic nation mah.... 7/10 need eye glasses :wink:

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Re: Pilot or Stewardess?

Postby Harlequin » Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:01 pm

A funny note, in future we would have the highest proportion of population holding professional jobs and a pool of "stewardess" governing them.

Joke aside, tide and trend, will keep repeating itself. History texts taught me that.
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Re: Pilot or Stewardess?

Postby 3Boys » Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:10 pm

Harlequin wrote:A funny note, in future we would have the highest proportion of population holding professional jobs and a pool of "stewardess" governing them.

Joke aside, tide and trend, will keep respecting itself. History texts taught me that.


Interesting perspective that.

But you are right, eventually, it cycles around. A student of history will tell you which part of the cycle we are at right now.

My reckoning is that the golden age of Singapore is near an end.

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Re: Pilot or Stewardess?

Postby 3Boys » Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:15 pm

Here is Barack Obama's wiki for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

He's a Harvard Law school graduate, president of the Harvard Law review.

By Singapore's standards, he is too 'elitist' to be elected, but 61 million Americans voted for him.

Not sure if he has weekly MTP or not, accompanied by his legion of Secret Service escorts......solving resident's parking problems.

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Re: Pilot or Stewardess?

Postby Strparent » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:55 pm

it's not just who he is, or what task he does PERSONALLY or delegate - it's how he feels and accepts as a leader in a democratic society. Its the person in him that convinces the 61m voters.

"As president of our country, and commander in chief of our military, I accept that people are going to call me awful things every day, and I will always defend their right to do so."

- U.S. President Barack Obama, UN General Assembly (26 Sept 2012)


I have lesser qualms withe the newer batch of MIW candidates, given time and compassion, I am sure PAP can be more effective in the future.
They need to weed out the some of the jia liao bee first , previously deployed simply due to meritocracy, imho

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Re: Pilot or Stewardess?

Postby limlim » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:57 pm

Ministers are like pilots..

MPs are like stewardess.

We need highly skilled pple to be the pilot.. (You can have a few pilots distributed among the GRCs to ensure they get in).. Are ministers appointed or elected?

I don't need a pilot to serve my personal in-flight needs.. a stewardess is more preferred :evil: If necessary, she can convey my concerns to the pilot.. :wink:

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