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Molest of Young Girls

Postby concern2 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:39 pm

"Commuter went to the aid of 12-year-old girl who was being molested on bus"

By Khushwant Singh

A bus commuter became suspicious when cleaner Lim Wai Sin, 53, chose to sit next to a 12-year-old school girl on July 31 this year despite there being numerous empty seats.

When the bus neared the second stop after the Punggol interchange, she started fidgeting and Mr Mohd Nordin Abdul Muthalif, 38, who was keeping a close eye on the pair, went forward to ask if she was alright.

She said she was being molested. On Wednesday, a district court sentenced Lim to 10 months in jail. He had pleaded guilty to using criminal force to outrage the modesty of the primary school student.

Mr Mohd Nordin, a crane operator, told police that he saw the cleaner rubbing his elbow against the girl's rib cage on SBS Transit service 85 at 6.30am that day. He had then asked the bus driver to call for the police and Lim was arrested.
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This incident reminds me of my personal experience in Sec school on the bus. I used to have to travel long distance to school and there was this old man (he was old to me then) who started to sit next to me despite the many seats available. I was very naive then, although I did wonder. Eventually I got uncomfortable as he would occasionally "fall asleep" with his head touching my shoulder. Subsequently, I did not show any more courtesy. Every time he came on board the bus and sat next to me despite the many other seats available, I would stand up and move to the other seats. That worked and he kept his distance.

Girls can really be soooooo naive. When I think back on how I nearly get into trouble with guys, I had to count my blessings.

This also reminds me of the girl from Malaysia who was murdered and stuffed into a suit case. :faint: I realise we simply cannot take safety for granted.

Do you have any close encounters to share?

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Re: Molest of Young Girls

Postby atrecord » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:15 pm

sigh...

Just as i'm starting to think when should we start to get DD to walk to tuition class on her own... and obviously from there on, later take bus on her own...

At this rate, we'll be too scared to start :sweat:

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Re: Molest of Young Girls

Postby concern2 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:23 pm

atrecord wrote:sigh...

Just as i'm starting to think when should we start to get DD to walk to tuition class on her own... and obviously from there on, later take bus on her own...

At this rate, we'll be too scared to start :sweat:


Need to teach her not to trust people easily and some self-defence. Some girls are afraid of looking rude, in the end became submissive and become easy target.

Another instance on the bus. I was sitting right at the end, and alone. Some boys boarded the bus and sat at the long seat next to me. One of them started to edge close to me and started teasing me. Gosh, I couldn't believe how I could hold such a straight face - now I can recall how I develop my poker face :rotflmao: But the guys saw no fun in teasing me eventually, and by then it was time to get off the bus. I said a curt "Excuse Me" and looked straight into his eyes and he 'siam' aside to let me go. Phew!

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Re: Molest of Young Girls

Postby nicnac » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:32 pm

I still remember clearly... I was 11-12yrs old, going home in the bus, this man kept rubbing his groin against my shoulder... And I naively thought it was accidental so I kept quiet thru out the journey..
But I guess the bus seating designs nowadays make this kind of molestation harder.

Another time, around the same age, at the swimming pool... Someone flashed himself when I was swimming past .. My only reaction then was to swim away.

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Re: Molest of Young Girls

Postby MMM » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:36 pm

I printed out that news and I intend to show it to my dds tonight. Especially for my dd who is gg to Sec 1 next year, would propose that if she decides to take the bus home (1 hour journey), she sits at the lower deck iso upper deck.... Just in case she falls asleep. So far she is the wary of strangers type. But still think it's better to educate. So role play on what to do if she meets someone like that.

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Re: Molest of Young Girls

Postby slmkhoo » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:39 pm

atrecord wrote:sigh...

Just as i'm starting to think when should we start to get DD to walk to tuition class on her own... and obviously from there on, later take bus on her own...

At this rate, we'll be too scared to start :sweat:

How old is she? We started letting our girls go around by themselves around 10yo, but only well-defined routes and places in daylight. We also gave them a basic pep talk about how to stay safe (don't walk in lonely places, don't follow anyone anywhere, go to a shop or bus stop for help etc etc). We also told them never to be embarrassed to move away if any person made them feel uncomfortable by getting too close etc. They carried a mobile phone, so I said they should just call me anytime. Risks are everywhere, and we can't protect our kids forever. Teaching them how to survive is better protection than escorting them everywhere, but of course, you have to assess how mature your girl is before you start.

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Re: Molest of Young Girls

Postby SAHM_TAN » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:41 pm

Hi insider,

The case on the news considered 桃花 too?

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Re: Molest of Young Girls

Postby MMM » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:41 pm

nicnac wrote: Another time, around the same age, at the swimming pool... Someone flashed himself when I was swimming past .. My only reaction then was to swim away.


That reminded me of a time when I was in my teenage stage, was crossing the overhead bridge and there was this teenage boy who was masturbating when he was walking across the bridge...we were in opposite direction so I had the full view of his exposure. I just pretended that I didn't see him doing the act, maintain a poker face and walk off.

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Re: Molest of Young Girls

Postby slmkhoo » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:46 pm

nicnac wrote:Another time, around the same age, at the swimming pool... Someone flashed himself when I was swimming past .. My only reaction then was to swim away.

I was flashed at once when I was about 14yo. I was with a group of friends and we were so busy talking and laughing that no-one noticed. I also didn't notice at the time, but later on, realised what I had seen. I wonder if he was disappointed at our lack of reaction! I've also had a few men lean too close on buses, and I learned to use my elbows or umbrella to stick into their sides to keep them away. I didn't always want to move as I didn't want to give up my seat and stand!

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Re: Molest of Young Girls

Postby clay569 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:48 pm

nicnac wrote:I still remember clearly... I was 11-12yrs old, going home in the bus, this man kept rubbing his groin against my shoulder... And I naively thought it was accidental so I kept quiet thru out the journey..
But I guess the bus seating designs nowadays make this kind of molestation harder.

Another time, around the same age, at the swimming pool... Someone flashed himself when I was swimming past .. My only reaction then was to swim away.


I have similar experience.. The groin in bus thing is exactly the same. In Pri then.

And once I was walking to the public library at night, I had to cut across an unlit field. The man on the foot path started to pee when I approached and made those 'zood zood' sound to get my attention.

Another time I was chatting with my friend at a bus stop at 10+ pm. A man sat a the void deck behind the bus stop and pulled down his pants and fixed his eyes on me (my friend had her back to that man)...

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