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another flight gone missing

Postby pirated » Thu May 19, 2016 11:44 am

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/18/middl ... index.html


(CNN)An EgyptAir flight heading from Paris to Cairo disappeared from radar with 69 people on board, the airline said. .
The plane was flying at 37,000 feet when it disappeared shortly after entering Egyptian airspace, the airline tweeted.
A total of 69 people were on board -- 59 passengers and 10 crew members.
In a statement on its website, Charles de Gaulle Airport said EgyptAir Flight 804 left Paris at 11:09 p.m. local time.
The airline's media center said it will provide more information as it becomes available.

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Re: another flight gone missing

Postby starlight1968sg » Thu May 19, 2016 12:04 pm

following this news...

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Re: another flight gone missing

Postby sushi88 » Thu May 19, 2016 7:50 pm

Plane is still not found and no one has claimed responsibility.

It seems that no matter how much high tech we claim to have today in flying in the air and cruising in the sea and even venture into planets so far away, yet when any plane that goes missing above the sea it will just go into some sort of mysterious disappearing act for prolonged period.............so perplexing..... :censored:

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Re: another flight gone missing

Postby nicnac » Thu May 19, 2016 7:59 pm

sushi88 wrote:Plane is still not found and no one has claimed responsibility.

It seems that no matter how much high tech we claim to have today in flying in the air and cruising in the sea and even venture into planets so far away, yet when any plane that goes missing above the sea it will just go into some sort of mysterious disappearing act for prolonged period.............so perplexing..... :censored:


I thought the French President has confirmed that the plane had crashed?

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Re: another flight gone missing

Postby sushi88 » Thu May 19, 2016 8:07 pm

nicnac wrote:
sushi88 wrote:Plane is still not found and no one has claimed responsibility.

It seems that no matter how much high tech we claim to have today in flying in the air and cruising in the sea and even venture into planets so far away, yet when any plane that goes missing above the sea it will just go into some sort of mysterious disappearing act for prolonged period.............so perplexing..... :censored:


I thought the French President has confirmed that the plane had crashed?



Yes, confirmed by inference because the plane is still missing.

"Here’s a translation from BBC of what President Hollande said:

It was feared that this plane had crashed. The information that we have managed to gather confirm alas that this plane has crashed, and it has disappeared. 66 passengers were on board, including the crew and security personnel. Among the passengers there were 15 French citizens. A crisis cell was actioned immediately.

Alongside the Egyptian authorities we are making sure that all the families should be informed during this test. Our thoughts and solidarity and compassion are with them.

We have a duty to know everything about the causes of what happened. No hypothesis should be ruled out. Everything should be put at the disposal of the Greek and Egyptian authorities so that we can liaise with them. We have to send them ships and planes to find where the plane crashed, and to do whatever we can to collect the debris. That will allow us to find the truth.

It could be a terrorist hypothesis but at this stage we should express our solidarity to the families and to find out the cause of the catastrophe.

We will find the truth."

By Greece officials...

"In an interview with the Guardian, the head of Greece’s air traffic controllers board insisted there was “no chance” MS804 was still in the air.

“I consider it a fact that the plane has crashed. There is no chance of it still being in the air,” Serafeim Petrou said. “Most probably, and very unfortunately, it is at the bottom of the sea.

The veteran 61-year-old air traffic controller clarified that the plane was lost on radar screens 18.5km “south of the Greek boundary” in Cairo FIR.

“It did not give any vocal or electronic signal before it disappeared,” he added. “Nothing can be excluded,” he said when asked what may have caused the crash.

“An explosion could be a possibility but, then, so could damage to the fuselage. I think at this point we are talking about wreckage, wreckage at the bottom of the sea and tracing the cause is going to take time.”

Greece has scrambled two C-130 military aircraft, two helicopters (a Super Pumer and Sea Hawk) and a frigate as part of a search and rescue operation now taking place 130 nautical miles south east of the Aegean island of Karpathos.

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Re: another flight gone missing

Postby pirated » Thu May 19, 2016 9:54 pm

Debris located

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Re: another flight gone missing

Postby sushi88 » Fri May 20, 2016 7:58 am

pirated wrote:Debris located


Summary

Here’s what we know so far about EgyptAir flight MS804, which went missing en route from Paris to Cairo at 2.30am local time Thursday morning.

1. EgyptAir retracted its claim to have found wreckage belonging to MS804, falling in line with Greek authorities who said that floating debris did not belong to the plane. “We stand corrected,” Airline vice-president Ahmed Adel told CNN, adding that the recovered debris “is not our aircraft”.

2. President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi ordered the navy, air force and army to join with Egyptian, French, Greek and US forces searching the Mediterranean for debris. The debris falsely attributed to MS804 was found near the island of Karpathos, east of Crete.

3. Egypt’s aviation minister Sherif Fathy said terrorism was more likely than technical failure to be the cause of the crash. “The possibility of having a terror attack is higher than the possibility of having a technical [problem],” he told reporters. French president François Holland, Egyptian prime minister Sherif Ismail and the White House said that terrorism could not be ruled out.

4. No group has claimed responsibility for downing the aircraft, and search teams still have no sign of the Airbus A320 or the 66 people who were on board.
The plane is presumed crashed in the Mediterranean, east of Greece and about 10 miles into Egyptian airspace. “Family members of passengers and crew have been already informed and we extend our deepest sympathies to those affected,” EgyptAir said in a statement.

5. The plane made “sudden swerves” before dropping off radar over the Mediterranean, Greek defense minister Panos Kammeno said. The plane made a 90-degree turn left, and then dropped from 37,000 feet to 15,000 feet before swerving 360 degrees right, he said.

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2 ... ve-updates

Wonder what happened to the 2 bodies found....

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Re: another flight gone missing

Postby floppy » Fri May 20, 2016 1:11 pm

sushi88 wrote:Plane is still not found and no one has claimed responsibility.

It seems that no matter how much high tech we claim to have today in flying in the air and cruising in the sea and even venture into planets so far away, yet when any plane that goes missing above the sea it will just go into some sort of mysterious disappearing act for prolonged period.............so perplexing..... :censored:


Sea - vast, deep, uninhabited
Current - strong, fast flowing
Beacon - limited range, limited lifespan

When a plane ended up in the sea, it could end up north/south/east/west or deep under by the time anyone gets to the last known location. This makes locating them much more difficult than when a plane ended up on land (as those debris won't be going anywhere).

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Re: another flight gone missing

Postby sushi88 » Fri May 20, 2016 2:28 pm

floppy wrote:
sushi88 wrote:Plane is still not found and no one has claimed responsibility.

It seems that no matter how much high tech we claim to have today in flying in the air and cruising in the sea and even venture into planets so far away, yet when any plane that goes missing above the sea it will just go into some sort of mysterious disappearing act for prolonged period.............so perplexing..... :censored:


Sea - vast, deep, uninhabited
Current - strong, fast flowing
Beacon - limited range, limited lifespan

When a plane ended up in the sea, it could end up north/south/east/west or deep under by the time anyone gets to the last known location. This makes locating them much more difficult than when a plane ended up on land (as those debris won't be going anywhere).


I understand. We have invested to figure things more far out in space than the depth of the sea but have not invested enough to figure things out in the sea. Just my humble observation. There are no lives to save in space but potentially there are lives to save under the sea for accidents or at least give closure to the living.

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