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Re: [Wuhan Cornoavirus] Global Updates 24/1

Post by oplo » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:02 pm

Parent wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:05 pm
2. When the virus drops on metal surface, it will live for at least 12 hours. So remember if you come in contact with any metal surface, wash your hands with soap thoroughly.

3. The virus can remain active on fabric for 6-12 hours. Normal laundry detergent should kill the virus. For winter clothing that does not require daily washing, you can put it out under the sun to kill the virus.
How long can the virus remains active depends a few factors including temperature and humidity. Our high humidity environment actually promotes longer sustainable environment for virus.

For parents with suitable apartment or house layout can consider use dehumidifier(s) to discourage airborne virus. Dehumidifiers with ioniser are only useful if negative ions are of a very very small size.

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Re: [Wuhan Cornoavirus] Global Updates 24/1

Post by oplo » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:07 pm

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Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:50 am
phtthp wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:32 pm
Estéema wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:18 pm
Stepping Up Precautionary Measures against the Wuhan Coronavirus Infection: Leave of Absence for Students and Staff Returning from Mainland China

1. To enhance protection of our school students against the Wuhan coronavirus infection, MOE will be implementing a Leave of Absence (LOA) for students and staff returning from Mainland China. This will apply to all MOE schools, which include MOE Kindergartens, primary and secondary schools, Special Education (SPED) schools, Junior Colleges and Millennia Institute, polytechnics and the Institute of Technical Education (ITE). The LOA will be valid for a period of 14 days, starting from the day after arrival in Singapore. The LOA applies to students and staff from polytechnics and ITE who return from Mainland China on 14 January 2020 or later, and students and staff from schools who return from Mainland China on 15 January 2020 or later.

2. MOE had earlier instituted a range of measures including issuance of advisories to remind students and staff to practise good personal hygiene habits and how to stay safe during this period, requiring them to declare their travel history, and advising those who travelled to China to take their temperature regularly for 14 days upon their return. The latest LOA measure allows MOE to better mitigate the potential risks posed by travel in our schools and institutions, while enabling them to continue with their usual learning and other activities. Students on LOA will be supported via a home-based learning plan, which will enable them to continue with their learning.

3. MOE strongly advises students and their families to monitor their health and adopt good personal hygiene habits. Parents should seek immediate medical attention for their children if unwell, and ensure that their children recover fully before they return to school for classes. Schools will also start daily temperature taking exercises from Wednesday, 29 January 2020 when they reopen, and will monitor students and staff for any signs of flu-like symptoms.

4. MOE will continue to work closely with schools and institutions to keep them updated on the latest medical advice and developments of this Wuhan coronavirus infection.

For updates on the coronavirus situation, you can visit www.moh.gov.sg or sign up at go.gov.sg/whatsapp to receive the latest information via Whatsapp.
In IP schools like

Nanyang Girls High and Hwa Chong Junior College

There are many IP Y1 to Y4 students and JC1 and JC2 students from China, studying in these 2 schools

After CNY over, after spring festival over,
these Teachers and students will fly back to Sg, from Wuhan, or from other parts of China. Singapore should quarantine these China Tr and students !

if there is any boarding school activity, Moe should also cancel all these boarding school activities. This is the WRONG time, to conduct any boarding school activities

Because

All u need is one student or Tr to start the virus chain of spread, and chaos arise.
Look at the way how Asian countries turned back Wuhan air flight coming into their country, prevent these Wuhan air flight from landing into their country airport
Again, the govt is indecisive in their action.

LOA (LEAVE OF ABSENCE) should be upgraded to QO (QURANTINE ORDER), since they already impose ban on visitors from Hubei or have travelled there.

LOA does not compel people to stay at home and has no legal force, unlike QO. If these people go out, they may infect others.
LOA is optional on MOM's advisory (27 Jan) and most companies including MNCs don't follow.

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Re: [Wuhan Cornoavirus] Global Updates 24/1

Post by oplo » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:22 pm

lee_yl wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:43 pm
Estéema wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:34 am
It’s alr 6061 cases as of this morning. Look at the graph & how it spiked within a short time compared to SARS.

I’m hoping MOE announce 14 days no sch to reduce public contact. We’ve many Chinese students within our many sch communities incl teachers.
Usually there will be a spike and then it will die off?

For SARS, the mortality rate is higher, around 10%. For the Wuhan virus, the mortality rate is lower, 6K infected but 100+ deaths so far.

That is why I asked earlier whether anyone has any idea how are the SG confirmed patients doing in our local hospitals?
1. The number of peaks depending on many factors including quarantine efforts and R0. China believes it will peak 7 to 10 days from today. Academic epidemiologists from University of Hong Kong and Imperial College believe it will peak around late April to mid May.

2. SARS mortality rate should exclude China's statistics because their numbers are amazingly low. If you look at Canada mortality rate, its around 38% in April to 17% in June. Hong Kong mortality pattern is similar to Canada except its peak mortality rate was 71% during onset. Taiwan has a different mortality pattern as it has a much wider peak above 40% mortality rate. China has many 小仙子 with <10% mortality rate. But because China forms the bulk of the numbers, final number is skewed. At present it is hard to be convinced that China has better medical care than Canada, Hong Kong and Taiwan during the SARS period contributing to low mortality rate.

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Re: [Wuhan Cornoavirus] Global Updates 24/1

Post by lee_yl » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:22 pm

While I was queuing to make payment at NTUC, only lady (wearing mask), screamed at the cashier for taking out her loaf of Gardenia bread from the translucent plastic bag, to scan for the bar code. She later took that loaf of bread and headed back to the bread section and exchange a new one, hurled, “you are wasting my time!”

After this lady left, the frustrated cashier murmured not so nice comments, “for those who are afraid of death, usually will be the first to die of the virus.” I actually burst out laughing.

Don’t know why, many are getting paranoid

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Re: [Wuhan Cornoavirus] Global Updates 24/1

Post by oplo » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:29 pm

Estéema wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:14 pm
Parents signing petition for 14 days closure to leave safe margin for our kids before returning to school :-

https://www.change.org/p/minister-of-ed ... _share_abi
14 days closure is not going to help if Singapore admits asymptomatic patients. Community transmission may become a possibility for high density Singapore with high reliance on public transports. For policy makers, it's about striking a balance between health, diplomatic and economic securities.


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Re: [Wuhan Cornoavirus] Global Updates 24/1

Post by oplo » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:33 pm

MyPillow wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:43 am
Estéema wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:34 am
It’s alr 6061 cases as of this morning. Look at the graph & how it spiked within a short time compared to SARS.

I’m hoping MOE announce 14 days no sch to reduce public contact. We’ve many Chinese students within our many sch communities incl teachers.
can Call MOE contact center to feedback
You believe it helps?

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Re: [Wuhan Cornoavirus] Global Updates 24/1

Post by oplo » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:37 pm

phtthp wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:05 pm
All school CCA should also stop, because of Wuhan virus
If the students are already in a school environment, would cancelling CCA helps?

Wouldn't morning assembly, canteen, etc where a larger student body gathers in close proximity pose a higher risk?

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Re: [Wuhan Cornoavirus] Global Updates 24/1

Post by oplo » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:53 pm

MyPillow wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:16 pm
I am surprised there are actually so many chinese fr Wuhan working in Spore !
dh just realised too , his workplace , wuhan, shanghai ... sigh.... like what some shared.. we will know slowly .. when most are back n the incubation period of virus "matured" ! sch with more chinese students, tuition centers teachers, CC teachers !!!! ????
Cannnot be LOA , should be Q Order for all these
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Yes, we have a very large pool of talents, with 20k to 90k taking up citizenship yearly. From the 2012 NPTD White Paper, Singapore is closely on track to 6.9M by 2030.

From year 1990 to now, citizens have grown from 2.6M to 3.6M when fertility rate fell below replacement rate (since 1980s). For new parents who are around 30 years old (Singaporean millennials/ gen Y), you are actually a minority within your cohort (2.6/5.8).

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Re: [Wuhan Cornoavirus] Global Updates 24/1

Post by Estéema » Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:13 pm

I don’t see any relevance in playing the immigrant population numbers against SG born. We’re all either 2nd or 3rd (even 4th generation of immigrants). Birth rates are falling everywhere innpart bcoz of lifestyle & choices of the young. If FT had been in SG for long & willing to give up their citizenship having went thro citizenship classes, etc., then I won’t grudge coz our govt look beyond this generation. They’re looking at their next generation born in SG & educated in SG to be the pillar of population supporting our economy & community growth.

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Re: [Wuhan Cornoavirus] Global Updates 24/1

Post by phtthp » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:45 pm

Wuhan become "ghost" town.
People stay at home, dare not come out. Hotel cafe empty, roads are empty deserted

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/as ... e-12362386

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