Ah...I just remembered this...it slipped my mind for the longest time. Just a word of caution as it happened to my dd. If the child is learning with Yamaha, they have an internal grading(rom Japan) that goes from grade 1 to grade 9 or 10 and I am not sure how it matches to ABRSM. So if a child in P1 says he/she is grade 5 r 6, just confirm if it is ABRSM exam. My child's classmate in P1 told her she was grade 6...only to realise that she was talking about Yamaha's grade but for ABRSM, I believe she was only grade 2 and she played like a grade 2 then. Can anyone learning with Yamaha comment on that?Funx3 wrote:Hi Bro Mark,markfch wrote:Was told by ds that someone in his P1 cohort has attained/or is going for grade 8 piano practical exams. I was very surprise to hear this as that is extremely fast progress imo.
Is this a common phenomenon?
My Gal just told me,
Her Classmate says got Grade 8 in P1 ....
same-same sch as your ds -le ....
Sch Really got many Crouching Tigers, Hidden Dragons -le ....
Hee-Hee ....
Is it possible for a P1 student to reach piano grade 8?
Re: Is it possible for a P1 student to reach piano grade 8?
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Re: Is it possible for a P1 student to reach piano grade 8?
Ya can't be that many prodigies around esp in the same area, high chance is they are referring to Yamaha grading system which is in descending order from Grade 9 onwards.
So far no 1-1 ABRSM-Yamaha grades matching I've come aross officially. But certainly not a grade by grade match. As far as I know you need to have min ABRSM Grade 8 to be a teacher (8 levels) and Yamaha, it's Grade 5 (5 levels).
So far no 1-1 ABRSM-Yamaha grades matching I've come aross officially. But certainly not a grade by grade match. As far as I know you need to have min ABRSM Grade 8 to be a teacher (8 levels) and Yamaha, it's Grade 5 (5 levels).
Re: Is it possible for a P1 student to reach piano grade 8?
Nope. She is Talking about her P1 Classmate (6 years ago)....markfch wrote:Maybe we are talking about the same boy who is incidentally ds's classmate. As for ds, piano teacher commented that ds is currently at grade 1.5 level.Funx3 wrote: Hi Bro Mark,
My Gal just told me,
Her Classmate says got Grade 8 in P1 ....
same-same sch as your ds -le ....
Sch Really got many Crouching Tigers, Hidden Dragons -le ....
Hee-Hee ....
Since I requested to only let him take exams if he has good chance to get distinction, we agreed to wait for ds to progress to grade 2 level first before allowing him to take grade 1 exam.
Actually I was Surprised, thought not possible, too ....
But on the other hand, My Gal Passed her Taekwando Junior Black Belt when she's in P1, So Maybe Not so impossible for other discipline ....
Re: Is it possible for a P1 student to reach piano grade 8?
It's definitely possible. My son started on piano at K2. 4 months later, he was doing ABRSM grade 1 songs. But we decided against going the usual ABRSM exam route. Instead, his teacher assessed him and felt he was ready to work by composers. She started him on A Little Notebook for Anna Magdalena Bach and Hanon. At the beginning of P1, she let him select a recial piece (for June) from a list of grade 4 songs. At the same time, he was working on the Burgmuller op.100. After almost 8 months of break, he picked up piano learning again early this year, and is working on The Swallow now. One important qualifier, my son is not even close to hardworking. He doesn't spend a great deal of time on his instruments. But he has the physical built and perhaps, some musical talent in the music arena. (At K2, his teacher wants him to learn to control the piano, instead of letting the piano to control him.)
So, if a child like him starts early and with good discipline (aka hardworking parents), it is possible for one to reach ABRSM grade 8 at a very young age.
So, if a child like him starts early and with good discipline (aka hardworking parents), it is possible for one to reach ABRSM grade 8 at a very young age.
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Re: Is it possible for a P1 student to reach piano grade 8?
Black belt at P1? Heeeeyaa!!Funx3 wrote: But on the other hand, My Gal Passed her Taekwando Junior Black Belt when she's in P1, So Maybe Not so impossible for other discipline ....
I thought gymnastics, calligraphy & taekwando don't mix?
How come your dd so talented?
Re: Is it possible for a P1 student to reach piano grade 8?
I see, I thought Yamaha students also take the ABRSM exams.ksi wrote: Ah...I just remembered this...it slipped my mind for the longest time. Just a word of caution as it happened to my dd. If the child is learning with Yamaha, they have an internal grading(rom Japan) that goes from grade 1 to grade 9 or 10 and I am not sure how it matches to ABRSM. So if a child in P1 says he/she is grade 5 r 6, just confirm if it is ABRSM exam. My child's classmate in P1 told her she was grade 6...only to realise that she was talking about Yamaha's grade but for ABRSM, I believe she was only grade 2 and she played like a grade 2 then. Can anyone learning with Yamaha comment on that?
Re: Is it possible for a P1 student to reach piano grade 8?
I remembered reading something about Lang Lang's training when he was young. Apparently, his dad threatened to throw him down the flat and then commit suicide himself when he didn't master a piece well.radiantmum wrote:Ya can't be that many prodigies around esp in the same area, high chance is they are referring to Yamaha grading system which is in descending order from Grade 9 onwards.
So far no 1-1 ABRSM-Yamaha grades matching I've come aross officially. But certainly not a grade by grade match. As far as I know you need to have min ABRSM Grade 8 to be a teacher (8 levels) and Yamaha, it's Grade 5 (5 levels).
Talk about carrot and stick.
Re: Is it possible for a P1 student to reach piano grade 8?
They do...it's just that when they talk about piano grades, you don't know whether they are taking about Yamaha internal grading or ABRSM grading....so gotta be clear on that...markfch wrote:I see, I thought Yamaha students also take the ABRSM exams.ksi wrote: Ah...I just remembered this...it slipped my mind for the longest time. Just a word of caution as it happened to my dd. If the child is learning with Yamaha, they have an internal grading(rom Japan) that goes from grade 1 to grade 9 or 10 and I am not sure how it matches to ABRSM. So if a child in P1 says he/she is grade 5 r 6, just confirm if it is ABRSM exam. My child's classmate in P1 told her she was grade 6...only to realise that she was talking about Yamaha's grade but for ABRSM, I believe she was only grade 2 and she played like a grade 2 then. Can anyone learning with Yamaha comment on that?
Of course if it is a prodigy, a high distinction grade 8 is possible in P1. Otherwise for taking exams, as long as you have about $400 to burn, just sign for it.
Re: Is it possible for a P1 student to reach piano grade 8?
I think this is only possible (ABRSM grade 8 at P1) if the child is born into a family of musicians. Or if the child is super-talented and has the right teacher to groom him/her.chamonix wrote: So, if a child like him were to start early and with good discipline (aka hardworking parents), it is possible for one to reach ABRSM grade 8 at a very young age.
Re: Is it possible for a P1 student to reach piano grade 8?
Yup, that will be one of the criteria for the making of prodigies. In both cases, parental support still plays a very significant part.markfch wrote:I think this is only possible (ABRSM grade 8 at P1) if the child is born into a family of musicians. Or if the child is super-talented and has the right teacher to groom him/her.chamonix wrote: So, if a child like him were to start early and with good discipline (aka hardworking parents), it is possible for one to reach ABRSM grade 8 at a very young age.