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Why string instrument doesn't sound 'beautiful'?

Postby sleepy » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:41 pm

Hi parents with kids learning string instruments, appreciate your advice :smile:

My girl is learning abrsm grade 3 exam pieces right now. Her sight reading is quite good. For pieces that teacher never teach, she can self learn & play.

However, I noticed her playing is not that ideal. Does not sound 'beautiful' to me. Even for grade 2 pieces which she's familar with, somehow still doesn't sound 'beautiful'.

I'm not sure it's teacher's problem or her problem...

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Re: Why string instrument doesn't sound 'beautiful'?

Postby Pen88n » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:05 pm

For string instruments, the quality of the instrument and bow is extremely important. There is instrument which has richer tone and what I called as "more forgiving" (not too sensitive), so it is better for beginners compared with instument with distinctive tone and character which suits more matured player. You need to choose a suitable instrument for the player.

The technique of the player is also important, how the strength, speed of the bow is controlled and the finger at the exact placing to produce the right note.

For beginners, string instruments tend to be harder to master and sound produced may not be too ideal. With adequate practice over time, it will improve and you will find string instruments can be much more expressive.

Usually string instrument tend to play as a single fiddle (1st or 2nd fiddle) and it will sound better when accompanied by other instruments. When you hear the upper grade pieces played with accompanying piano, it can sound very good when they are in synch and in harmony.

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Re: Why string instrument doesn't sound 'beautiful'?

Postby phankao » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:29 pm

sleepy wrote:Hi parents with kids learning string instruments, appreciate your advice :smile:

My girl is learning abrsm grade 3 exam pieces right now. Her sight reading is quite good. For pieces that teacher never teach, she can self learn & play.

However, I noticed her playing is not that ideal. Does not sound 'beautiful' to me. Even for grade 2 pieces which she's familar with, somehow still doesn't sound 'beautiful'.

I'm not sure it's teacher's problem or her problem...


Don't know how to comment as I cannot imagine what you mean by "not beautiful".

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Re: Why string instrument doesn't sound 'beautiful'?

Postby peanut_butter » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:22 pm

video?

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Re: Why string instrument doesn't sound 'beautiful'?

Postby sleepy » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:44 am

phankao wrote:Don't know how to comment as I cannot imagine what you mean by "not beautiful".


Not 悦耳动听

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Re: Why string instrument doesn't sound 'beautiful'?

Postby phankao » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:56 pm

sleepy wrote:
phankao wrote:Don't know how to comment as I cannot imagine what you mean by "not beautiful".


Not 悦耳动听


So I assume it's not technique, but the dynamics (loud/soft/slow/fast) not enough?

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Re: Why string instrument doesn't sound 'beautiful'?

Postby markfch » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:24 pm

I think it's because for an instrument like piano, many notes can be played at the same time (esp. if you hit the sostenuto pedal), resulting in a richer, fuller tone. But for string instruments, there're only limited notes that can be played simultaneously.

As I'm typing this, I'm listening to Yiruma's 'Kiss the Rain.' To top it up, my neighbour who's a piano teacher is practising Scarlatti these few nights. So wonderful.
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Re: Why string instrument doesn't sound 'beautiful'?

Postby sleepy » Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:45 am

I watched yo-yo-ma and some other cellists solo performance. Everyone played so beautifully, really soothing to the ears.

My dd is only playing 1/2 a page kind of relatively simple notes. Even if no where as good as the professionals, theoretically still shouldn't sound unpleasant, right?

She practises 3 to 4 times a week for 30 minutes each time. Not super hardworking but at least consistent practice. Her chords sound better than exam pieces though.

I really can't pin point what's the problem. Teacher doesn't know how to coach? But how to identify a good teacher?

Quite clueless when come to strings teacher. What are the attributes to look out for in a good strings teacher?

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Re: Why string instrument doesn't sound 'beautiful'?

Postby phankao » Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:33 pm

sleepy wrote:I watched yo-yo-ma and some other cellists solo performance. Everyone played so beautifully, really soothing to the ears.

My dd is only playing 1/2 a page kind of relatively simple notes. Even if no where as good as the professionals, theoretically still shouldn't sound unpleasant, right?

She practises 3 to 4 times a week for 30 minutes each time. Not super hardworking but at least consistent practice. Her chords sound better than exam pieces though.

I really can't pin point what's the problem. Teacher doesn't know how to coach? But how to identify a good teacher?

Quite clueless when come to strings teacher. What are the attributes to look out for in a good strings teacher?


Is she using a half-size cello?

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Re: Why string instrument doesn't sound 'beautiful'?

Postby sleepy » Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:41 pm

phankao wrote:Is she using a half-size cello?


3/4 size

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