All About : Go (Weiqi,围棋)

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All About : Go (Weiqi,围棋)

Postby bengbeng » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:51 pm

My child has learned Weiqi for 4+ years. From my experience and what I observed on other Weiqi kids, they have very good school performance, especially in math.
I don't have any statistic analysis results for these Singapore Weiqi kids, what I can show you are only some examples of these real kids. During last several years, I have also collected information regarding why and how Weiqi can improve children's intelligence, concentration, memory ability. I would like to share it with everybody in the thread later on. Interestingly, all the principle learned during Weiqi training can be applied to children's daily life, you can image how strong a kid’s mental will be after trained to face so many failures and still willing to have continuous challenges.

As my daughter is in primary 5, so I am more familiar with these Weiqi kids who are primary 6 and primary 5 now. I give you some examples:

Kheng Hun, GEP student, scored 272 in 2010 PSLE, accepted by RI via DSA, strong in Weiqi, gold medal in NUS High Olympiad Maths when he was in P4, P5, P6 for 3 consecutive year.
Likai, GEP student, very strong in Weiqi (in P6 now, still spend time for Weiqi training during weekend in Singapore Weiqi Association). He has received lots of Olympiad Maths medals in the past years (like Gold for 2009 AMC8). Piano 8 grade, and is the 1st in National Mathematical Olympiad of Singapore 2010 (NUS high Olympiad maths)(http://oas.highsch.nus.edu.sg/NMOS/NMOS ... 202010.pdf )
Xiangyu, lots of Champion in primary school Weiqi competition, Champion of Shoutan Cup in P5, Top student in his school, National Award in 2010 AMC8, Gold medal in National Mathematical Olympiad of Singapore 2010 (NUS high Olympiad maths) (http://oas.highsch.nus.edu.sg/NMOS/NMOS ... 202010.pdf )
Yifei,is a real Weiqi lover, very strong in Weiqi, the 4th in 2010 World Youth Goe Championship, Bronze medal in ACS Olympiad Maths.
HuangQi, GEP student, lots of Champion in primary school Weiqi competition, 1st runner up in 2010 Singapore national Ladies Weiqi Open Group. Also strong in Olympiad Math (I don’t have details about this).
Aiyun, Top student, lots of medal in primary school Weiqi competition, Champion for 2010 Singapore national Ladies Weiqi Junior Group. Also strong in Olympiad Math (I don’t have details about this).
Shuwei, Top student in her school. Lots of champion in primary school Weiqi competition, Champion of 2010 Singapore national Ladies Weiqi Open Group. Now in P5, Distinction in English and Writing, Science in ICAS, high distinction in ICAS Math. Bronze Medal in 2010 AMC8.
Kangzeng, GEP student, lots of medal in Primary school Weiqi competition, High distinction in ICAS Maths

I don’t have all the detailed information, this information were learned during causal chat with parents. Weiqi lovers from NUS, NTU, RGS may also have their own story, unfortunately I don’t have enough information. Maybe, in future somebody should spend time to conduct a comparison research. But what I can feel is most of the Weiqi trained kid are humble, intelligent, have strong memory and logic analysis ability, I will show you some research results to support my opinion and also some interesting facts about Weiqi.
I strongly suggest you introducing Weiqi to your kinds, don’t miss it and you will not regret. Actually, it will never be too late to learned Weiqi. I learned Weiqi in middle school, and if you visit Singapore Weiqi Association, you can meet with Weiqi lover over 80 years old, still have very good memory and strong analysis, calculating skills. I believe that it is Weiqi keep them in good mental health.

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Why Every Child Should Learn Go (围棋)

Postby bengbeng » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:55 pm

Why Every Child Should Learn Go

(http://users.eniinternet.com/bradleym/ChildGo.html)
© 2009 Milton N. Bradley

Although it might seem that the time and effort expended on Go constitutes a distraction from academic work, there is much anecdotal evidence indicating that the students who play Go regularly actually outperform their non-Go playing peers. In fact, a 7 year study conducted by the Japanese Education Ministry showed that STUDENTS WHO WERE MEMBERS OF THEIR JUNIOR AND SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL GO CLUBS ARE TWICE AS SUCCESSFUL IN GAINING ENTRY INTO THEIR PRESTIGIOUS NATIONAL UNIVERSITIES (the equivalent of our Ivy League colleges) AS ALL OTHERS!

In the same manner that progressive weight training complements specific sport skill training, Go complements the standard school academic curriculum, filling in the gaps in the student's thinking processes left by its emphasis on the rote memorization of facts and the manipulation of pat formulas. This effect is further enhanced by Go's unique integration of both left brain (analytic) and right brain (artistic) capabilities in a developmental way that is unmatched by any other known human activity!

Many young people "resist to the death" when school and parents attempt to induce them to pay attention to formal classroom instruction and (even worse) devote hours of their personal time to homework. In sharp contrast, even indifferent/sub-par students who become caught up in the fascination of Go's exquisite subtlety, incisive tactics and profound strategy, willingly engage in prodigies of intense over-the-board concentration, and expend untold hours of study to improve their playing skills and understanding. They do so because it is FUN, and in the process they not only restructure their brains but also develop habits of study and concentration which then carry over with salutary effect into their academic and real life interfaces.

Does this actually work? Or is it just a pleasant sounding theory? As noted above there are no hard statistics to definitively support its efficacy, but among the vast amount of anecdotal evidence I found the following to be especially persuasive - and I expect that you will be similarly impressed:

"I can honestly say that I have learnt more about how to conduct my life from Go than from any other intellectual pursuit." Stephen G. Fawthrop, Ph.D., Math. & Stat. Department, Radford University, Radford, VA 24091, 540-831-6096.

A slightly different approach which offers further insight into this important issue is provided by the following new study:

Title: The IQs of Children who learn Baduk go up!

This article was published by Park Chi-Moon (probably the most famous Baduk reporter in Korea) in the Joongang Daily (a very old and respected newspaper in Korea) on January 3, 2009, and subsequently posted with the author's permission on the official Korean Baduk Association web site http://www.baduk.or.kr) on Feb 2,2009 as article number 512239.

Translated from the Korean by Gary Kim, edited by Milton N. Bradley -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A new study has suggested that the kids who learn Baduk (Go, Weiqi) improve their IQ, concentration level, and problem solving skills.

Baromi Kim of the Children Division, Kyung Hee University, has revealed in her Ph.D. dissertation that the kids who participated in her Baduk program experiment are superior to their non-participating counterparts in the categories of intelligence(IQ), concentration (ability to maintain focus on the task at hand), problem solving skill, and satisfaction-deferment ability (ability to curb precipitous action and be patient.). There have long been common conjectures regarding the benefits of playing Baduk, such as increase in intelligence and patience, and now she has provided solid evidence to backup those contentions.

Kim conducted her experiment over a 7 month period, in 2 divisions of the Seoul Deoksoo Elementary School(*http://www.deoksoo.es.kr/sub7/main.asp?idx=1), with 68 children, age five.

First, in March 2008, she tested the 68 kids in four areas, namely; intelligence, using the most trusted and widely used test(K-WPPSI) for measuring the intelligence of young children; ability to maintain focus on a given task; problem solving ability; and satisfaction-deferment ability.

Then, she randomly divided the 68 kids into two groups, and went on to enroll the 36 in the experimental group in her Baduk program. (The remainder were the control group.). After the program had ended, in October 2008, she re-conducted the tests of the aforementioned four areas on all the same children, with the result that the ones who participated in the Baduk program showed superior performance to the control group in all four areas:

- In the category of IQ (bodily-kinesthetic IQ), the control group showed an increase of 9.8 from 99.8 to 109.4, while the experimental group showed a much er increase of 15.7, from 103.1 to 118.8.

- In the area of concentration, the control group increased by 90.0, from 96.9 to 186.9, while the experimental group increased 157.1, from 92.2 to 249.3.

- In the problem solving skills as well, the control group increased 7.44, from 34.97 to 42.41, while the experimental group increased by 16.08, from 36.61 to 52.69.

So it seems that the natural curiosity the game of Baduk produced in these children has helped their concentration, while the experience of having solved continuous problems on the Baduk board has also affected these children in positive ways.

- There was a rather peculiar result in the satisfaction-deferment ability test. While it is traditionally thought that all abilities of children increase as they grow up, this was shown not to be the case with regard to patience. Those who did not participate in the Baduk program went down 78.50 in the patience score from 566.41 to 487.91 In contrast, those who learned Baduk increased 109.01 from 555.31 to 664.33. This showed that the nature of Baduk, in which you need to repeatedly play by the rules, may have relevance with regard to the children of the modern age, who may often lack patience and are not accustomed to wait. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Caveat

This study on the benefits of playing Baduk on children's intelligence was cogent and interesting especially because its results were in accord with what we already believe, but regrettably was not definitive because it was scientifically flawed. Not only were the sample sizes quite small, but, at least equally important, no attempt seems to have been made to assess the statistical significance of the results. In addition, these two primary flaws are further exacerbated by the secondary fact that no attempt seems to have been made to assess the effects (if any) of the host of other variables (demographics, diet, family situation, etc., etc.) that conceivably could have affected the observed results.

Until these flaws are corrected in a followup study, final judgment on the study's premise of a salutary effect of playing Baduk (Go) on children's intelligence must regrettably be deferred.

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Postby KSP » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:58 pm

How about xiangxi? Will it helps too?

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What is Weiqi(围棋)

Postby bengbeng » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:04 pm

From wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_%28game%29)

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Go (Japanese:碁), known in Chinese as weiqi (simplified Chinese: 围棋; traditional Chinese: 圍棋; pinyin: wéiqí; Wade-Giles: wei ch'i) and in Korean as baduk (hangul: 바둑), is an ancient board game for two players that is noted for being rich in strategy despite its relatively simple rules.

The game is played by two players who alternately place black and white stones on the vacant intersections of a grid of 19×19 lines. Once placed on the board, stones cannot be moved elsewhere, unless they are surrounded and captured by the opponent's stones. The object of the game is to secure (surround) a larger portion of the board than the opponent. When a game concludes, the controlled spaces are counted by their respective players to determine which portion is the largest, as territory size is not easily apparent during play.

Placing stones close together helps them support each other and avoid capture; groups of stones must have at least one liberty (open point) to be "alive." On the other hand, placing stones far apart creates influence across more of the board. Part of the strategic difficulty of the game stems from finding a balance between such conflicting interests. Players strive to serve both defensive and offensive purposes and choose between tactical urgency and strategic plans. At its basis, the game is one of simple logic, while in advanced play the game involves complex heuristics and tactical analysis.

Go originated in ancient China more than 2,500 years ago. Although it is not known exactly when the game was invented, by the 3rd century BC it was already a popular pastime, as indicated by a reference to the game in the Analects of Confucius. Archaeological evidence shows that the early game was played on a board with a 17×17 grid, but by the time that the game spread to Korea and Japan in about the 7th century, boards with a 19×19 grid had become standard.

The game is most popular in East Asia. A conservative estimate places the number of Go players worldwide at approximately 27 million.[2] Go reached the West through Japan, which is why it is commonly known internationally by its Japanese name.[nb 1][/img]
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Postby ctct61t » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:13 pm

No matter weiqi, xiangqi, or internation chess, all these brain exercise can help children to development their mindset. I also want my DD to play those games. Time seems too tight for her. How i can arrange for it.

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Postby bengbeng » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:17 pm

KSP wrote:How about xiangxi? Will it helps too?


thanks for your comments!

:D 象棋 also helps. But compared to Weiqi, 象棋 is much easier. Computer program has already defeat human in chess and 象棋. it is still a long long way to go for computer game to defeat human in Weiqi. Do you agree? Ying Changqi has put USD 1 million as award to first program to defeat human. Anybody want to try? :D.
Even for me, I can easily defeat the most powerful Weiq computer program with no doubt.
The reason is Chess and 象棋 is linear calculating. for example, 车value more than 马, it is taht obvious and simple. But if I put two seed on Weiqi board, which value more? Their value are changing all the time. It is not a linear calculating algorithm that can solve this problem.

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Postby bengbeng » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:30 pm

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Go(Weiqi,围棋)can impove children's leanring ability

Postby bengbeng » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:45 pm

My child has learned Weiqi for 4+ years. From my experience and what I observed on other Weiqi kids, they have very good school performance, especially in math.
I don't have any statistic analysis results for these Singapore Weiqi kids, what I can show you are only some examples of these real kids. During last several years, I have also collected information regarding why and how Weiqi can improve children's intelligence, concentration, memory ability. I would like to share it with everybody in the thread later on. Interestingly, all the principle learned during Weiqi training can be applied to children's daily life, you can image how strong a kid’s mental will be after trained to face so many failures and still willing to have continuous challenges.

As my daughter is in primary 5, so I am more familiar with these Weiqi kids who are primary 6 and primary 5 now. I give you some examples:

Kheng Hun, GEP student, scored 272 in 2010 PSLE, accepted by RI via DSA, strong in Weiqi, gold medal in NUS High Olympiad Maths when he was in P4, P5, P6 for 3 consecutive year.
Likai, GEP student, very strong in Weiqi (in P6 now, still spend time for Weiqi training during weekend in Singapore Weiqi Association). He has received lots of Olympiad Maths medals in the past years (like Gold for 2009 AMC8). Piano 8 grade, and is the 1st in National Mathematical Olympiad of Singapore 2010 (NUS high Olympiad maths)(http://oas.highsch.nus.edu.sg/NMOS/NMOS ... 202010.pdf )
Xiangyu, lots of Champion in primary school Weiqi competition, Champion of Shoutan Cup in P5, Top student in his school, National Award in 2010 AMC8, Gold medal in National Mathematical Olympiad of Singapore 2010 (NUS high Olympiad maths) (http://oas.highsch.nus.edu.sg/NMOS/NMOS ... 202010.pdf )
Yifei,is a real Weiqi lover, very strong in Weiqi, the 4th in 2010 World Youth Goe Championship, Bronze medal in ACS Olympiad Maths.
HuangQi, GEP student, lots of Champion in primary school Weiqi competition, 1st runner up in 2010 Singapore national Ladies Weiqi Open Group. Also strong in Olympiad Math (I don’t have details about this).
Aiyun, Top student, lots of medal in primary school Weiqi competition, Champion for 2010 Singapore national Ladies Weiqi Junior Group. Also strong in Olympiad Math (I don’t have details about this).
Shuwei, Top student in her school. Lots of champion in primary school Weiqi competition, Champion of 2010 Singapore national Ladies Weiqi Open Group. Now in P5, Distinction in English and Writing, Science in ICAS, high distinction in ICAS Math. Bronze Medal in 2010 AMC8.
Kangzeng, GEP student, lots of medal in Primary school Weiqi competition, High distinction in ICAS Maths

I don’t have all the detailed information, this information were learned during causal chat with parents. Weiqi lovers from NUS, NTU, RGS may also have their own story, unfortunately I don’t have enough information. Maybe, in future somebody should spend time to conduct a comparison research. But what I can feel is most of the Weiqi trained kid are humble, intelligent, have strong memory and logic analysis ability, I will show you some research results to support my opinion and also some interesting facts about Weiqi.
I strongly suggest you introducing Weiqi to your kinds, don’t miss it and you will not regret. Actually, it will never be too late to learned Weiqi. I learned Weiqi in middle school, and if you visit Singapore Weiqi Association, you can meet with Weiqi lover over 80 years old, still have very good memory and strong analysis, calculating skills. I believe that it is Weiqi keep them in good mental health.
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Postby smurf » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:49 pm

Most of them are from china?? :?

For them, they are already very strong in academic.

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Postby bengbeng » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:01 pm

smurf wrote:Most of them are from china?? :?

For them, they are already very strong in academic.


:D ,hi, be confident about Singapore Education System, all these students received Singapore Education from P1. None of them have been trained in any China Primary School.
:D

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