English : Which sentence is correct?

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English : Which sentence is correct?

Postby vkoh » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:33 am

Hi all, need your advice on the correct usage of the following sentences:

1. The girl had a blond hair and blue eyes, that made people think that she came from another planet.

2. The girl had a blond hair and blue eyes, which made people think that she came from another planet.

3. The girl had a blond hair and blue eyes. That made people think that she came from another planet.

Thanks

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Postby Guest » Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:22 am

All wrong.

The girl had a blond hair and blue eyes.

Cannot have 'a'.

Secondly, the context of this sentence is also strange when it is a standalone sentence. Blond Hair and blue eyes look alien? Thought with globalisation and internet age, this cannot be true, can it? :?
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Postby Nebbermind » Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:47 am

have always been wondering when to use 'which' and 'that'...sometimes seems interchangeable.
love to hear from the experts!

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Postby duriz » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:07 am

Nebbermind wrote:have always been wondering when to use 'which' and 'that'...sometimes seems interchangeable.
love to hear from the experts!


I'm no expert.

The rule is that that and which can be used for restrictive clauses and which is used for non-restrictive clauses:

Reality is everything that/which exists.
My dog has been found, which comforts me.

That is always used in a restrictive sense, that is, it defines or narrows a category, or identifies an item in a group. A clause using the word that is necessary to the sentence or restricts the meaning.

Which is non-restrictive, that is, its clause is not necessary to the meaning of the sentence, but merely provides additional information about the subject.

The simple rule of thumb is that which is almost always preceded by a comma, a dash or a parenthesis, and that is not.

Note that this distinction is rarely made in British English. And the Americans like to call this exercise, "conducting a which hunt" :D
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Postby Guest » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:08 am

It is not truly interchangeable, only one way.

When 'that' needs to be used, it cannot be changed to 'which'

When 'which' needs to be used, it can be changed to 'that".

"That" is used for restrictive clauses

"Which" is used for non-restrictive clauses....I call it an embellishment of the sentence, i.e. with or without that line with 'which', the sentence still holds.

I suppose the confusion comes because "Who" is used in both restrictive and non-restrictive clauses whereas "Which" we have to take note that it cannot be used in restrictive clauses.

eg. (restrictive clauses)

The dog that died was my favourite pet. refers to a specific dog

The dog, which died, was my favourite pet. says additional thing about the dog but the sentence is incorrect because one you remove 'which died'

"The dog was my favourite pet" is totally different meaning.

another eg. (unrestrictive clauses)

My dog, which wears a chain, is a playful dog.

My dog that wears a chain is a playful dog (is also correct)

My dog is a playful dog (is also the same meaning as the above 2 sentences)
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Postby atutor2001 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:07 pm

For those interested in which and that :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learn ... v313.shtml

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Postby Mrs Ang » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:15 pm

atutor2001 wrote:For those interested in which and that :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learn ... v313.shtml

Thanks, this is helpful!

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Postby atutor2001 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:20 pm

Mrs Ang wrote:Thanks, this is helpful!


You are most welcome. Enjoy reading. "Remembering them" is the hardest part for me.

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