hi
for parents who are familiar with both MA (model approach) and UTM (unit transfer mthd), at whch level ie p4 or p5 shd the child be taught UTM since in sch they only teach MA? will UTM confuse the child?
on the other hand, UTM seems easier cos no need to draw models and some kids may like.
i m asking this cos still contemplating between mathheurisitics (utm) and onsponge (primarily MA i think). prefer centres that teach a thinkg framework, not just normal centres just do n do tons of wksheet and at the end the child dontunderstand or forget the approach
model approach vs unit transfer method
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Re: model approach vs unit transfer method
by Guest » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:13 pm
24hrmum wrote:hi
for parents who are familiar with both MA (model approach) and UTM (unit transfer mthd), at whch level ie p4 or p5 shd the child be taught UTM since in sch they only teach MA? will UTM confuse the child?
on the other hand, UTM seems easier cos no need to draw models and some kids may like.
i m asking this cos still contemplating between mathheurisitics (utm) and onsponge (primarily MA i think). prefer centres that teach a thinkg framework, not just normal centres just do n do tons of wksheet and at the end the child dontunderstand or forget the approach
According to a friend whose kid was in P6 last year, his school had never taught UTM. This was a method her son learned in the enrichment centre only.
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Re: model approach vs unit transfer method
by 24hrmum » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:23 pm
ya, schools wont teach (anything, sigh). i m contemplating whether to send my girl to tuition ctr that teach Ma OR utm OR BOTH

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Re: model approach vs unit transfer method
by Chenonceau » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:32 pm
My take is this... (but take with some salt because after Jan 2010's traumatic experience with failure, I have become hypervigilant and approach my son's schoolwork like an FBI agent out to prevent the next terrorist attack). This means I lay the groundwork for every contingency.
I gave my son all the methods (from UTM, to branching, to Model, to algebra) and I leave it to him to develop the mental agility to choose the best method for the problem. Some problems simply are easier to solve using one particular method. P5 exams require SPEED and accuracy. There are questions that can be solved in 2 minutes with algebra... others need a long time with algebra but can be done in 2 minutes with UTM. For other questions, my son mixes and matches the methods.
With practice, the child can learn to scan and pick methods. However, if your child does not have a strong grounding in Math from P1 to P4, then giving so many methods may be confusing.
I gave my son all the methods (from UTM, to branching, to Model, to algebra) and I leave it to him to develop the mental agility to choose the best method for the problem. Some problems simply are easier to solve using one particular method. P5 exams require SPEED and accuracy. There are questions that can be solved in 2 minutes with algebra... others need a long time with algebra but can be done in 2 minutes with UTM. For other questions, my son mixes and matches the methods.
With practice, the child can learn to scan and pick methods. However, if your child does not have a strong grounding in Math from P1 to P4, then giving so many methods may be confusing.

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Re: model approach vs unit transfer method
by 24hrmum » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:06 pm
so have u tried mathheuristic at goldhill or the onsponge tuition?
as for branching, where is it taught?
as for branching, where is it taught?

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Re: model approach vs unit transfer method
by Chenonceau » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:34 pm
24hrmum wrote:so have u tried mathheuristic at goldhill or the onsponge tuition?
as for branching, where is it taught?
Ummmm... I kinda don't believe in tuition. I believe that one's studies must be one's own effort and that independent learning is an important skill to build in preparation for secondary school.
So, I bought the Onsponge books (they document both branching and UTM) and the Math Heuristic Model book. Then, I got my son to skim them. This means he does only 2 problems from each subunit of the book... The moment he feels that he has grasped the strategy, he moves on to the next subunit. Then I threw away the book. No sense boring the child unnecessarily. He completed both books in 2 weeks so I dun think the techniques are very hard to pick up.
For the Math Heuristics Model Drawing book, my son insisted to do one particular subunit entirely because he thought that it was a strategy that he did not fully understand after doing only 2 problems.

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Re: model approach vs unit transfer method
by Guest » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:35 pm
24hrmum wrote:ya, schools wont teach (anything, sigh). i m contemplating whether to send my girl to tuition ctr that teach Ma OR utm OR BOTH
School teaches MA.
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Re: model approach vs unit transfer method
by iFirefly » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:53 pm
ksi wrote:24hrmum wrote:ya, schools wont teach (anything, sigh). i m contemplating whether to send my girl to tuition ctr that teach Ma OR utm OR BOTH
School teaches MA.
Hi 24hrmum, you mean your DS' school never teach the Model Approach at all? Thot most schools will introduce MA to pupils from P2 onwards (simple ones)? My DS is in P3 this year and his school has taught them both the MA and Unit Transfer Method.
Btw, what primary level is your child in this year?

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Re: model approach vs unit transfer method
by bebebub » Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:17 pm
Sorry, allow me to OT abit as I'm getting a bit confused......
At PSLE, are students allowed/suppose to use any appropriate method/strategy to solve a word problem? Say, if the Q can be solved using either MA or UTM, student can choose whichever method, as long as the problem is solved?
So if school only teach the MA method, then it is up to student to learn the other methods  UTM, algebra, whatever.....
Sorry for being such a clueless mummy.
At PSLE, are students allowed/suppose to use any appropriate method/strategy to solve a word problem? Say, if the Q can be solved using either MA or UTM, student can choose whichever method, as long as the problem is solved?
So if school only teach the MA method, then it is up to student to learn the other methods  UTM, algebra, whatever.....
Sorry for being such a clueless mummy.

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Re: model approach vs unit transfer method
by Guest » Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:28 pm
bebebub wrote:Sorry, allow me to OT abit as I'm getting a bit confused......
At PSLE, are students allowed/suppose to use any appropriate method/strategy to solve a word problem? Say, if the Q can be solved using either MA or UTM, student can choose whichever method, as long as the problem is solved?
So if school only teach the MA method, then it is up to student to learn the other methods  UTM, algebra, whatever.....
Sorry for being such a clueless mummy.
Yes, PSLE accepts any method as long as it logically leads to the answer.
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