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SEAB says PSLE Chinese Paper Fair to Pupils

Postby kohjl » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:19 am

For info. Please see link as well as article reproduced for yr easy reference:

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/cna/20091014/t ... 1650b.html

SEAB says PSLE Chinese Paper was fair to pupils
Channel NewsAsia - Thursday, October 15
SEAB says PSLE Chinese Paper was fair to pupils

SINGAPORE: The Singapore Examinations and Assessment Board (SEAB) said it has in place a process to ensure all examination questions are carefully set and vetted — so that they are fair to all candidates.

The board’s comment followed feedback that the recent PSLE Chinese examination paper contained a comprehension passage that was familiar to some students.

Some parents told online forums that the passage had previously appeared in an assessment paper with minor changes. They said it was unfair as students who had done the passage before would get more marks.

The board said questions are set by experienced and reliable examiners. The questions are then moderated through several rounds by specialists from SEAB and the Ministry of Education.

Papers are also trialled to ensure they are fair and to determine the level of difficulty.

The board said that although the setter had drawn reference from an external source, the passage is not a reproduction. It added the content and language in the passage had been substantially modified to be aligned to the assessment objective.

Comprehension questions set on the passage were not taken from any source. The board assured parents that pupils who had seen the other passage would not have been unfairly advantaged over those who did not.

This is the second time this year’s PSLE examinations are coming under the spotlight. Earlier, the PSLE Mathematics paper drew criticism for being too tough.

— CNA/sc

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Re: SEAB says PSLE Chinese Paper Fair to Pupils

Postby kohjl » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:26 am

kohjl wrote:
The board said that although the setter had drawn reference from an external source, the passage is not a reproduction. It added the content and language in the passage had been substantially modified to be aligned to the assessment objective.



Sure, it was not a "reproduction": afterall, they changed "mangoes" to apples, didn't they? :roll:

Hmm....the fact that many students recognised the passage makes me wonder just how "substantially modified" it was!

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Postby atutor2001 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:02 am

The fact that one of the pitures for the Chinese oral was not a common event happening locally makes me wonder if the Head is from PRC.

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Postby watmekiasu » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:14 am

atutor2001 wrote:The fact that one of the pitures for the Chinese oral was not a common event happening locally makes me wonder if the Head is from PRC.


Care to describe the pic?

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Postby jedamum » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:19 am

watmekiasu wrote:
atutor2001 wrote:The fact that one of the pitures for the Chinese oral was not a common event happening locally makes me wonder if the Head is from PRC.


Care to describe the pic?

i think atutor2001 meant the picture about a farewell party for the teacher.

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Postby finder » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:37 am

jedamum wrote:i think atutor2001 meant the picture about a farewell party for the teacher.

quite a few kids take it as celebrate teacher day :cry:

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Re: SEAB says PSLE Chinese Paper Fair to Pupils

Postby NYCWTC » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:33 pm

kohjl wrote:For info. Please see link as well as article reproduced for yr easy reference:

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/cna/20091014/t ... 1650b.html

SEAB says PSLE Chinese Paper was fair to pupils
Channel NewsAsia - Thursday, October 15
SEAB says PSLE Chinese Paper was fair to pupils

SINGAPORE: The Singapore Examinations and Assessment Board (SEAB) said it has in place a process to ensure all examination questions are carefully set and vetted — so that they are fair to all candidates.

The board’s comment followed feedback that the recent PSLE Chinese examination paper contained a comprehension passage that was familiar to some students.

Some parents told online forums that the passage had previously appeared in an assessment paper with minor changes. They said it was unfair as students who had done the passage before would get more marks.

The board said questions are set by experienced and reliable examiners. The questions are then moderated through several rounds by specialists from SEAB and the Ministry of Education.

Papers are also trialled to ensure they are fair and to determine the level of difficulty.

The board said that although the setter had drawn reference from an external source, the passage is not a reproduction. It added the content and language in the passage had been substantially modified to be aligned to the assessment objective.

Comprehension questions set on the passage were not taken from any source. The board assured parents that pupils who had seen the other passage would not have been unfairly advantaged over those who did not.

This is the second time this year’s PSLE examinations are coming under the spotlight. Earlier, the PSLE Mathematics paper drew criticism for being too tough.

— CNA/sc


How could the SEAB just say that it is fair and let the mattle rest? I think it just really very unfair. Those pupils who had already seen the passage will definetly gain advantage.

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Re: SEAB says PSLE Chinese Paper Fair to Pupils

Postby tutormum » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:23 pm

kohjl wrote:Sure, it was not a "reproduction": afterall, they changed "mangoes" to apples, didn't they? :roll:

Hmm....the fact that many students recognised the passage makes me wonder just how "substantially modified" it was!

My son's classmate did the comprehension in his tuition class. He has a superb memory. He said that the only change was the name of the fruit. Yes, he did enjoy the advantage cos though he did it sometime in Jan, he still could remember even the questions asked. His classmates who did it with him has no memory at all. :siam:

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Re: SEAB says PSLE Chinese Paper Fair to Pupils

Postby kohjl » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:57 pm

tutormum wrote:My son's classmate did the comprehension in his tuition class. He has a superb memory. He said that the only change was the name of the fruit. Yes, he did enjoy the advantage cos though he did it sometime in Jan, he still could remember even the questions asked. His classmates who did it with him has no memory at all. :siam:


I am sad for my son, and for similar ones like him who are not strong in Chinese. No matter how well he has done in his other subjects, this is going to pull down his overall aggregate....and in the final outcome, that's the only thing that matters. :(
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Postby caroline3sg » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:19 pm

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My girl's best subject is chinese. I am equally sore if she gets a low T-score due to high mean (more than 80% of cohort will get more than 75 marks).

I do not know how MOE is going to compare the difficulty level amongst 4 subjects. There is no way to compare, it is guts feel / guesstimation.

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