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The new PSLE Scoring 2021

Postby School Plus » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:43 pm

The New PSLE Scoring 2021.


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The T-score system will be replaced, giving way to a new PSLE scoring that will stratify students’ into 8 Achievement Levels (ALs) for each subject. The new scoring affects only students taking PSLE on and after 2021.

AL1 – 90+ marks
AL2 – 85-89
AL3 – 80-84
AL4 – 75-79
AL5 – 65-74
AL6 – 45-64
AL7 – 20-44
AL8 – 0 to 20

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Re: The new PSLE Scoring 2021

Postby sevenseals » Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:21 pm

New PSLE system will unfairly discriminate weaker students and add more stress to parents.

Parents of 2016 P1 pupils, please take note, as it would affect your child.

With the new PSLE scoring system it would mean that a student who scored 256 marks in four subjects would enter the Normal (Academic) stream, while the student who scored 220 marks would qualify for the Express stream. This outcome is unfair to the one who did better, Mr Chee said.

For the student who would have scored 256 marks in the old system, would score 24 points in new system which qualifies him only for Normal stream. Another pupil who would have scored 220 marks in old system would score 22 points which qualifies him to opt for Express or Normal stream.

“For instance, AL5 ranges from 65 to 74 marks, and AL6 ranges from 45 to 64. A pupil may score 64 marks in all four subjects for a total score of 24 (that is, four subjects in AL6), which qualifies him for the Normal (Academic) stream.

Another pupil may score 45 marks in two subjects and 65 in the other two for a total score of 22 (that is, two subjects in AL5 and another two in AL6), which qualifies him for the Express or Normal (Academic) stream, and he can then opt for the Express stream.” Mr Chee said.

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Re: The new PSLE Scoring 2021

Postby phtthp » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:43 am

something wrong, somewhere :?

how can Total Raw score student (256), who perform better & higher than student with 220 : get streamed into Normal (Academic), while the student (220, lower) get option to choose to goto Express / Normal stream ?

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Re: The new PSLE Scoring 2021

Postby allnamestaken » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:35 am

School Plus wrote:The New PSLE Scoring 2021.


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The T-score system will be replaced, giving way to a new PSLE scoring that will stratify students’ into 8 Achievement Levels (ALs) for each subject. The new scoring affects only students taking PSLE on and after 2021.

AL1 – 90+ marks
AL2 – 85-89
AL3 – 80-84
AL4 – 75-79
AL5 – 65-74
AL6 – 45-64
AL7 – 20-44
AL8 – 0 to 20

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I disagree with the sentence "AL5 – 8 are broader and they significantly increase the number of students who will get the same PSLE score." From the earlier news, it was stated that half of the students will get AL4 and above. So, means the other half will get AL5 and below. Following a normal bell curve, the proportion of students getting AL1-4 will be similar to those getting AL5-8.

On your example : Student A and Student B score 74 and 65 respectively, their psle score will be roughly 222 vs 195. Yes, although it is a 27 points different, but I don't really think they will definitely be posted to very different schools under the current psle system.

So, hence, I don't agree with your conclusion. I think while many of us are very confused by the change and taking our time to understand the implications to our children, especially those impacted by the change, we should be responsible enough to avoid providing misleading information or analysis which may intentionally or unintentionally create an unnecessary stir.

Thank you.

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Re: The new PSLE Scoring 2021

Postby galaxyraider » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:44 am

sevenseals wrote:New PSLE system will unfairly discriminate weaker students and add more stress to parents.

Parents of 2016 P1 pupils, please take note, as it would affect your child.

With the new PSLE scoring system it would mean that a student who scored 256 marks in four subjects would enter the Normal (Academic) stream, while the student who scored 220 marks would qualify for the Express stream. This outcome is unfair to the one who did better, Mr Chee said.

For the student who would have scored 256 marks in the old system, would score 24 points in new system which qualifies him only for Normal stream. Another pupil who would have scored 220 marks in old system would score 22 points which qualifies him to opt for Express or Normal stream.

“For instance, AL5 ranges from 65 to 74 marks, and AL6 ranges from 45 to 64. A pupil may score 64 marks in all four subjects for a total score of 24 (that is, four subjects in AL6), which qualifies him for the Normal (Academic) stream.

Another pupil may score 45 marks in two subjects and 65 in the other two for a total score of 22 (that is, two subjects in AL5 and another two in AL6), which qualifies him for the Express or Normal (Academic) stream, and he can then opt for the Express stream.” Mr Chee said.


That's the reason why I disagree with the way they define AL6. It should be narrower or even split into 2.

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Re: The new PSLE Scoring 2021

Postby kbcharmaine » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:58 am

I feel that the new scoring only benefits the intelligent ones as there is not much difference in the changes.. The new system will also penalised you, if you are the "unlucky one" who always scored in the higher band in the each AL... For those, always managed to score in the lower band in each AL, you will gain from this situation.. :shrug:

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Re: The new PSLE Scoring 2021

Postby phtthp » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:48 am

kbcharmaine wrote:I feel that the new scoring only benefits the intelligent ones as there is not much difference in the changes..

The new system will also penalised you , if you are the "unlucky one", who always scored in the higher band in the each AL...

For those, always managed to score in the lower band in each AL, you will gain from this situation.. :shrug:

Unfair, weak students get penalized !

parents with weak children, alert !

in the author's example above, suppose got two weak students : X and Y.
weak because, both are hovering riskily around the low AL band :
at AL5 and AL6.


AL5 : ranges from 65 to 74 marks, and
AL6 : ranges from 45 to 64


based on above author's illustration

student X : scored 64 marks, in each of his 4 core subjects (EMS & Mother Tongue)
Total Raw score = 64 x 4 = 256

per subject : fall into AL6
hence, Total AL = 6 x 4 subjects ==> AL 24

with AL 24 points :
X can only qualify for Normal (Academic) stream.


in contrast, How about student Y ?
student Y : scored 45 marks in 2 subjects, plus 65 in another 2 subjects
His Total Raw score = (45 x 2) + (65 x 2) = 90 + 130 = 220

2 subjects, for Y : fall into AL5
another 2 subjects : fall into AL6
hence, Total AL for Y = (5 x2) + (6 x 2) = 10 + 12 ==> AL 22

with AL 22 points :
Y qualify to opt, for either Express or Normal stream.
Y can then opt for, the Express stream.


But in reality, Who actually performed better ?
X (at 256), or Y (at 220), for Total Raw score ?

Under the new PSLE AL Banding system :
it means that X whose Total RAW score is 256 marks in 4 subjects -
will get streamed or channeled into the Normal (Academic) stream.

In contrast, Y whose Total Raw score is lower, 220 marks, (256 - 220 = 36 marks difference, Yes, much lower than X), will qualify for Express stream.
This outcome is unfair to the one (X) who did much better, based on Total Raw score.


if we were to convert X and Y Total Raw score into T-score, roughly what'll they be ?
as a rough estimate: let's take their (Total Raw score for 4 subjects) x 0.72
(since we do not know the actual entire P6 PSLE entire cohort standard deviation)

estimated T-score, for X : (265 x 0.72) = 190.8

estimated T-score, for Y : (220 x 0.72) = 158.4


under the current T-score system (up to year 2020) -
if minimum 200 is the qualifying T-score to enter Express stream, then Y will not have the chance to enter Express stream, since his estimated T-score (158.4) is so far away from minimum 200.

in contrast, under the new AL banding system -
Y has the opportunity, to opt for either Express or Normal.

see the difference : between old T-score vs. new AL Banding system ?

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Re: The new PSLE Scoring 2021

Postby CatMoon » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:25 pm

phtthp wrote:
kbcharmaine wrote:I feel that the new scoring only benefits the intelligent ones as there is not much difference in the changes..

The new system will also penalised you , if you are the "unlucky one", who always scored in the higher band in the each AL...

For those, always managed to score in the lower band in each AL, you will gain from this situation.. :shrug:

Unfair, weak students get penalized !

parents with weak children, alert !

in the author's example above, suppose got two weak students : X and Y.
weak because, both are hovering riskily around the low AL band :
at AL5 and AL6.


AL5 : ranges from 65 to 74 marks, and
AL6 : ranges from 45 to 64


based on above author's illustration

student X : scored 64 marks, in each of his 4 core subjects (EMS & Mother Tongue)
Total Raw score = 64 x 4 = 256

per subject : fall into AL6
hence, Total AL = 6 x 4 subjects ==> AL 24

with AL 24 points :
X can only qualify for Normal (Academic) stream.


in contrast, How about student Y ?
student Y : scored 45 marks in 2 subjects, plus 65 in another 2 subjects
His Total Raw score = (45 x 2) + (65 x 2) = 90 + 130 = 220

2 subjects, for Y : fall into AL5
another 2 subjects : fall into AL6
hence, Total AL for Y = (5 x2) + (6 x 2) = 10 + 12 ==> AL 22

with AL 22 points :
Y qualify to opt, for either Express or Normal stream.
Y can then opt for, the Express stream.


But in reality, Who actually performed better ?
X (at 256), or Y (at 220), for Total Raw score ?

Under the new PSLE AL Banding system :
it means that X whose Total RAW score is 256 marks in 4 subjects -
will get streamed or channeled into the Normal (Academic) stream.

In contrast, Y whose Total Raw score is lower, 220 marks, (256 - 220 = 36 marks difference, Yes, much lower than X), will qualify for Express stream.
This outcome is unfair to the one (X) who did much better, based on Total Raw score.


if we were to convert X and Y Total Raw score into T-score, roughly what'll they be ?
as a rough estimate: let's take their (Total Raw score for 4 subjects) x 0.72
(since we do not know the actual entire P6 PSLE entire cohort standard deviation)

estimated T-score, for X : (265 x 0.72) = 190.8

estimated T-score, for Y : (220 x 0.72) = 158.4


under the current T-score system (up to year 2020) -
if minimum 200 is the qualifying T-score to enter Express stream, then Y will not have the chance to enter Express stream, since his estimated T-score (158.4) is so far away from minimum 200.

in contrast, under the new AL banding system -
Y has the opportunity, to opt for either Express or Normal.

see the difference : between old T-score vs. new AL Banding system ?



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Re: The new PSLE Scoring 2021

Postby doodlez01 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:19 pm

just a thought, what happens to those in P1 who study in schools with affiliation now? they will still have different PSLE AL (estimated similar to T score) entry cut offs based on affiliation?

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Re: The new PSLE Scoring 2021

Postby grimm » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:35 pm

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