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English Paper 1 compo generated by AI

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Post by sky minecrafter » Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:31 pm

SG_KP1 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:02 pm
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My P6 kid was just doing homework assigned, so to speak, by the transformer (courtesy of school teacher)
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Post by slmkhoo » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:51 pm

zac's mum wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:25 pm
Very soon the AI bot will “learn” to throw in some grammatical errors and colloquial phrases. Then no one would be able to tell us apart!
Those are just the mechanics of language, and I suppose it can learn how to do it - and perhaps customise the errors in the style of speakers of a specific language - Singlish, Chinese, French, etc. Anyway, as I've been browsing, here are a couple more interesting articles. Basically, other characteristics of humans are things like emotional intelligence, creativity, personal experiences, ethical views, etc. Not impossible to fake, but harder.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... ed-chatgpt
https://www.zdnet.com/article/chatgpt-o ... ifference/

Actually, my main grouse with ChatGPT is that it doesn't cite sources, and who knows whether the material it has is accurate or true?
Also, as an editor, maybe it will now be a negative to aim for "error-free"! Not that any book is every error-free though - no matter how well I check, there almost always seems to be something I didn't notice.
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Post by sky minecrafter » Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:49 pm

chenlaoshi wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:32 pm
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My P6's teacher disallows them from using chatgpt for their expository research though ...
Btw laoshi, when you do test it out in the chinese language, please share with us your feedback - thank you!!
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Post by Schootopia » Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:08 pm

ChatGPT is an English language AI based on Natural Language Models.

It does not work with other languages natively. There are language translate AIs but that is another layer. Microsoft "demo"-ed a real-time English-to-Japanese Text-to-Speech keynote using virtual-reality hologram 4 years ago. Just image what can be achieved when technologies are combined.

A general knowledge or your "internet knowledge" AI is a few more steps than a pure language one. Source quality is a concern. Recently, Google tried to rush "Bard", which seeks to combine the breadth of the world's knowledge with the power of large language models. It didn't go very well.



By the way, I am not of the opinion that any primary/secondary kid should use tools like ChatGPT to generate writing for them. There are basics they should learn first.
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Post by slmkhoo » Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:43 pm

Schootopia wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:08 pm
By the way, I am not of the opinion that any primary/secondary kid should use tools like ChatGPT to generate writing for them. There are basics they should learn first.
I agree with this. Just like I believe kids should learn to write with pencil and paper before they type, or learn to walk before they dance!

But I would be interested to see how it works (will try it out one day when I have time) for writing articles, web posts etc. My impression is that the output can be rather bland, but maybe can be used as a starting point. My only concern is whether I can ask it to cite its sources so I can discern its reliability.
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Post by chenlaoshi » Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:01 pm

sky minecrafter wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:49 pm
My P6's teacher disallows them from using chatgpt for their expository research though ...
Btw laoshi, when you do test it out in the chinese language, please share with us your feedback - thank you!!
One of my Sec 2 student had to do a 2 mins speech and tried it out :lol: :

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I tried out a discursive essay topic from past year sch exam and got this:

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I don't know if it's a browser issue but the answer seems to be incomplete for the question above :sweat:

Content wise, the points coverage is pretty impressive. In terms of generating key points to include in discussion (and then elaborating on the details yourself), it may be quite useful.

If I were to nitpick, there's room for improvement expression (vocab) wise - e.g. in terms of use of rhetoric approaches, idioms, proverbs etc.
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Post by sky minecrafter » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:46 pm

chenlaoshi wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:01 pm
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Thank you laoshi. You are too generous :-) in your feedback...
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Post by sushi88 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:18 am

Commentary: We pitted ChatGPT against tools for detecting AI-written text, and the results are troubling

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/comment ... ne-3293011
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