Secondary 2 Streaming

PSLE marks the graduation of Primary school students and their entry into Secondary schools as teenagers. Discuss all issues about Secondary schooling here.
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Re: Secondary 2 Streaming

Post by floppy » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:41 am

Imp75 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:09 am
floppy wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:00 am
Imp75 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:45 am
Why would people take 4H2 with increased content rather than 3H21H1 which frees up more time? I read HCI website that most take 4H2.
1. Options
- Most local university courses have subject pre-requisite in H2, rarely in H1. With 1 additional H2, the number of options open up.

2. Scholarships
- Which would be the target that most students in HCI should be aiming for.
Ok if doesn’t really care for 1 or 2 (eg non science courses), can just take 3H2 right cos I heard A level syllabus really content heavy so if can take lesser might as well do that.
The short answer is yes. If the objective is to maximize returns / results, minimize the effort required, just take 3H2 (which is what the majority, outside of the top JCs / IP schools are doing).

The long answer is yes, but also depends on your combination. Ideally, the contrasting would be one that’s contrasting but-not-so contrasting :lol: Hence, Econ works well for science students. If your interest / contrasting subject is History, I reckon it makes not much difference in H1 / H2 (probably lesser content, but still heavy).

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Re: Secondary 2 Streaming

Post by slmkhoo » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:43 am

jtoh wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:32 am
Some JCs like HCI and RI have 4H2 as a default (provided that you meet the pre-requisites). This is because the JCs view the students as being capable of being stretched with no adverse impact on their UAS scores.
Conversely, MI only allows students to offer 3 H2 + 1 H1; no student takes 4 H2s. With the extra year, this enables weaker students to maximise their chances of getting into local universities. Their performance (at least in the 2015-16 years) was about 30% of their students getting in to local universities. I guess the proportion of students taking 3 H2s in the various JCs will range in between.

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Re: Secondary 2 Streaming

Post by jtoh » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:51 am

slmkhoo wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:43 am
jtoh wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:32 am
Some JCs like HCI and RI have 4H2 as a default (provided that you meet the pre-requisites). This is because the JCs view the students as being capable of being stretched with no adverse impact on their UAS scores.
Conversely, MI only allows students to offer 3 H2 + 1 H1; no student takes 4 H2s. With the extra year, this enables weaker students to maximise their chances of getting into local universities. Their performance (at least in the 2015-16 years) was about 30% of their students getting in to local universities. I guess the proportion of students taking 3 H2s in the various JCs will range in between.
Yes, some JCs have 3H2s as a default with only the more capable students taking 4H2s.

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Re: Secondary 2 Streaming

Post by Imp75 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:24 am

I saw local universities some course admission IGP is AAA/A. Does it mean UAS and GP/PW are not impt?

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Re: Secondary 2 Streaming

Post by slmkhoo » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:42 am

Imp75 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:24 am
I saw local universities some course admission IGP is AAA/A. Does it mean UAS and GP/PW are not impt?
They still count but lower weightage.


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Re: Secondary 2 Streaming

Post by jtoh » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:51 am

Imp75 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:24 am
I saw local universities some course admission IGP is AAA/A. Does it mean UAS and GP/PW are not impt?
The published stats are usually in the form of the four core subjects, not in UAS. But your overall UAS still counts, especially for the more competitive courses.

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Re: Secondary 2 Streaming

Post by floppy » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:00 am

slmkhoo wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:42 am
Imp75 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:24 am
I saw local universities some course admission IGP is AAA/A. Does it mean UAS and GP/PW are not impt?
They still count but lower weightage.
Those 4 subjects account for 70 of 90 points (or 77.8%). Hence, they are an important determinant.

GP / PW account for the balance. Even if you score C for both, you will still score 15/20 points - hardly a knock out blow for most courses, other than the most competitive ones.

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Re: Secondary 2 Streaming

Post by doodbug » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:39 am

GP, Project Work and 4th Content Subject counts for the same weightage, i.e. 10 points each, in the UAS computation.

The other three content subjects count for 20 points each.

The XXX/X are as what their titles say, Indicative (not absolute) Grade Profiles - gives you a guide on the cut-off grades.

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Re: Secondary 2 Streaming

Post by MyPillow » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:47 am

doodbug wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:39 am
GP, Project Work and 4th Content Subject counts for the same weightage, i.e. 10 points each, in the UAS computation.

The other three content subjects count for 20 points each.

The XXX/X are as what their titles say, Indicative (not absolute) Grade Profiles - gives you a guide on the cut-off grades.
thks for the info too , i vaguely remember the points.

1) Is it correct : Uni entry is generally based on 3H2 & 2H1 ( 1contrasting subject + 1 GP or project work ? )

2) any idea abt H3 subject pts?

edit to add qn:
the extra project work , chinese , 4th H2 - for what purpose, can't add points on top of Combi of (3H2+2H1) ?

actually Sec2 subject combi selection is quite impt - as it leads to A level eligible subjects combi and into uni pts entry

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Re: Secondary 2 Streaming

Post by MerlionInGermany » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:14 pm

MyPillow wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:47 am
doodbug wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:39 am
GP, Project Work and 4th Content Subject counts for the same weightage, i.e. 10 points each, in the UAS computation.

The other three content subjects count for 20 points each.

The XXX/X are as what their titles say, Indicative (not absolute) Grade Profiles - gives you a guide on the cut-off grades.
thks for the info too , i vaguely remember the points.

1) Is it correct : Uni entry is generally based on 3H2 & 2H1 ( 1contrasting subject + 1 GP or project work ? )

2) any idea abt H3 subject pts?

edit to add qn:
the extra project work , chinese , 4th H2 - for what purpose, can't add points on top of Combi of (3H2+2H1) ?

actually Sec2 subject combi selection is quite impt - as it leads to A level eligible subjects combi and into uni pts entry
I think total UAS is 3H2 plus 3H1, that is how the max is 90.
So PW is not extra.

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