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Besides polytechnic diploma? (Republic, Ngee Ann, Nanyang, Temasek, Singapore Polys)

How about NUSH diploma, HCI "diploma" (does it exist?), IB diploma or other diploma awarded by private/professional institutions such as Informatics, Thames Business School, IBF (Institute of Banking and Finance), Logistics Institute etc if the diploma holder chooses not to go ahead with University studies.

Is NUSH diploma an "equivalent" to a poly diploma, or higher or lower?

My husband is a civil servant.
He is holding private diplomaS (one of which is from Informatics) and a private degree. I guess he stood out not from his paper qualifications, but cos he held several leadership portfolios during his secondary school. At times it is not where the diplomas come from, but rather which line/industry the applicant is going for with his/her diploma.

Or are you trying to find out "what kinds of diplomas are recognised by govt companies to be regarded as 'Scholars' with career path nicely set out?' That, i have no comments.

jedamum wrote:My husband is a civil servant.
He is holding private diplomaS (one of which is from Informatics) and a private degree. I guess he stood out not from his paper qualifications, but cos he held several leadership portfolios during his secondary school. At times it is not where the diplomas come from, but rather which line/industry the applicant is going for with his/her diploma.

Or are you trying to find out "what kinds of diplomas are recognised by govt companies to be regarded as 'Scholars' with career path nicely set out?' That, i have no comments.

Never mind about mid-career professionals who have proven themselves. I mean for entry level first job prospective employee, will a NUSH diploma holder at 18 years old get the same payscale as a Polytechnic diploma holder at 19 years old? (assuming either student needs to get a job to support the family)

James Ang wrote: I mean for entry level first job prospective employee, will a NUSH diploma holder at 18 years old get the same payscale as a Polytechnic diploma holder at 19 years old? (assuming either student needs to get a job to support the family)

correct me if i am wrong, but i have the hunch that preference will be given to specialised polytechnic diplomas applicants applying for the specialised position; if both doing general jobs with no relevance to their diplomas, the payscale should be the same.
i have friend working for semi-govt firm whose payscale never got adjusted even after completing a part-time local degree, cos they pay according to their entry level unless there are internal transfer.

what do you think?

jedamum wrote:correct me if i am wrong, but i have the hunch that preference will be given to specialised polytechnic diplomas applicants applying for the specialised position; if both doing general jobs with no relevance to their diplomas, the payscale should be the same.
i have friend working for semi-govt firm whose payscale never got adjusted even after completing a part-time local degree, cos they pay according to their entry level unless there are internal transfer.

what do you think?

I ever come across a poly diploma holder with specialisation in mobile phone applications, but end up applying a logistics job. I assume general/admin jobs then, so both the poly diploma and NUSH diploma are ranked same payscale at entry level first job application if both are successful?

On part-time degree, I believe local degrees from NUS, NTU and SMU are recognised by employers, otherwise the staff can theoretically resign and then reapply for the same position/job with other applicants (theory only ok, don't laugh )? But if it is private degrees, previously I have colleagues whose new private degrees are not recognised by HR so they continue to work at Graded staff (diploma) payscale for years before they resigned for greener pasture, otherwise they would have to jump to be on a AO (degree) payscale like myself, then it will double their pay and can take over the AO's job.

James Ang wrote:Never mind about mid-career professionals who have proven themselves. I mean for entry level first job prospective employee, will a NUSH diploma holder at 18 years old get the same payscale as a Polytechnic diploma holder at 19 years old? (assuming either student needs to get a job to support the family)

Hi James,
Firstly, to answer your title: "What kinds of diplomas are recognised by govt companies?" Answer: Local poly diploma.
Secondly, on your question: "entry level first job prospective employee, will a NUSH diploma holder at 18 years old get the same payscale as a Polytechnic diploma holder at 19 years old?" Answer: With current economic, I would highly advise both to continue their education if it permits. Probably think NUSH grad should not stop his/her education there. Local poly diploma now covers a wide rang (from engineering, healthcare and latest to vet science & spa).
As for HCI diploma, when I attended DSA talk, principal himself mentioned that since other can offer diploma, they want to offer this option too. Do u see Raffles/ACI doing it?

father_of_3 wrote:Hi James,
Firstly, to answer your title: "What kinds of diplomas are recognised by govt companies?" Answer: Local poly diploma.
Secondly, on your question: "entry level first job prospective employee, will a NUSH diploma holder at 18 years old get the same payscale as a Polytechnic diploma holder at 19 years old?" Answer: With current economic, I would highly advise both to continue their education if it permits. Probably think NUSH grad should not stop his/her education there. Local poly diploma now covers a wide rang (from engineering, healthcare and latest to vet science & spa).
As for HCI diploma, when I attended DSA talk, principal himself mentioned that since other can offer diploma, they want to offer this option too. Do u see Raffles/ACI doing it?

That means the IP's diploma is the IB diploma. So IP only can get either A levels cert or IB diploma, and not both (unless the IB student takes A levels as a private candidate.).

Assuming a bright kid can get a poly diploma or a NUSH diploma or IB diploma that means it takes 7 years to get the poly diploma (4+3) but 6 years to get the NUSH or IB diploma (6 year IP), then IP can short cut the diploma process by 1 year. Question is if the IB diploma or NUSH diploma is recognised or not? This is an important question.

Hi James,
I think IP & local poly diploma are different. One is to train for employment in specific field, not forgetting local poly grad can apply for Uni. Even now medical school accept local poly grad.

As parents who attended NUSH DSA talk, the answer is yes. If you had been to NUSH web site, this is in FAQ section:
The NUS High School Diploma will be the school's graduation qualification. Currently, the Diploma is recognised as an admissible qualification by National University of Singapore, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore Management University, University of Cambridge, University of Oxford, University of Warwick, King’s College London, University College London, Yale University, Stanford University, Massachusett Institute of Technology, Cornell University , Dordt College, Lewis-Clark State College, Sweet Briar College, Virginia Military Institute, Washington University St Louis, Wilson College, Edith Cowan University, La Trobe University, Murdoch University, University at Buffalo (State University of New York), University of Georgia, Oklahoma Wesleyan University, University of Maryland. The list will continue as we seek recognition from the top-tier universities in the Australia.

insider wrote:
What I understand is IB diploma in Singapore is considered more ‘prestigious’ than the A level cert. Should not be a concern about not being recognize elsewhere though don’t think holders will be granted advance standing in the universities (meaning likely to start from Year 1).

Not sure about this statement on prestige. I would say that both IB diploma and A-level cert are prerequisite for university-level study. The curriculum and assessment for both are different. Some international schools here follow the IB path, rather than A-level.

The International Baccalaureate program started in Geneva, Switzerland in 1968. The GCE A-level is UK-based and started in 1950s.

I believe most universities would recognize IB and A-level, but it's good to check if you are aiming for any particular uni.