KiasuParents - Parenting in Singapore

SG_KP1 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:44 am

I've been following this from afar but interested due to EJC ties to SCGS/SNGS IP. I thought the IP intake was ~450 or so (not sure on CHS but though SNGS was 6 IP classes with SCGS at 4 IP class so ~300 total between these two). EJC's press releases say 529 Eunoians took A-Level in 2018 and 610 Eunoians took A-Level in 2019. This would imply ~150 or so JAE intake students (610 - 450), with the number possibly higher if size has kept increasing. So at least ~25% of students coming in via JAE.

I thought this was just as good as DHS/RVHS, as I had them at ~300 Sec 1-4 plus ~100 JAE (i.e. same 25%). One advantage for EJC is also that the IP kids come from three different schools, although maybe they are working on stuff together in the Sec 1-4 years. DHS/RVHS also started with what seemed like "high" JAE COPs in their first year (9 science, 10 arts) but moved up a point each in the second year. So perhaps when these IP JCs are new option people are hesitant?

I am not familiar with other JCs intake enough to know which ones have other IP/affiliated students moving over in large numbers. Regardless, I've always assumed that there are cliques everywhere, and as long as the EJC feeder core remains strong (understand people can change from PSLE to O/A level but as rough measure of intelligence the talent is there) that A-Level results should follow.

mommyNg wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:57 am

I just want to clarify that for NJC, contrary to many other IPJCs, JAE students actually make up the bulk of the JC intake. About 2/3 vs 1/3: of the roughly 600 JC 1 students in NJC, only 200 of them are from the IP program. The rest come from JAE. This is just a statement, please take it at face value.

lee_yl wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:11 am

Nurulla wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:08 am

lee_yl wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:56 pm

Your logic baffles me. COP shot up because bulk of places taken up by 3 IP sec and new campus.
That’s why I asked you, during the initial years when the COP was 11 & 10, have the 3 IP schools not joined EJC?

Whenever I drive along CTE, I find the ITE AMK campus gorgeous! So when are you sending your children there?

Did you pick up one adverse comment from another forum and you chose to parrot it as if it’s the absolute truth or do you hope that when you repeat a falsehood often enough, it will become the truth? Yet, the COP seems to be improving every year. You means these JAE students who choose to join EJC didn’t bother to find out “the truth”?

Yes, 3 ip jcs aldry inside initial yr.
Kudos to these ip sec, if not Ejc cop would had been >11.
Now, majority places still taken up by 3 ips, partial reason cop lowered is also due to this, we cant deny this fact.

If ur child qualifys ITE, will u consider AMK pretty campus ITE? U ans yrself.
Dont u know what school canteen food selling is also a factor student choose a school.
New campus the pulling factor there too.

Ejc 2nd class Jae treatment is well known by now.
If ur deny it, then bo bian.
U need to be in Ejc, then to experience the truth.
Classic eg- different initial orientation for ip kids

Yes, kudos to these IP sec students who made up the bulk of the JC intake. If not, NJC, VJC etc, the COP would also be >11

You are just trying very hard to wriggle your way out of a logical faux pas you committed. After all, EJC is an IP JC from day one and while this fact didn’t change, its COP has improved steadily and you can’t attribute it to it being an IP JC, which obviously it’s not a valid reason based on logical reasoning.

Since you were the one who said EJC campus was new thus attractive, I cited ITE AMK campus as another gorgeous campus which your kids can consider.

EJC treats JAE students as 2nd class? DH’s colleague whose daughter is from JAE said she enjoyed her days in EJC very much, the teachers are nice and caring. Perhaps that is your own opinion, and you just want to amplify it out of sour grapes!
You are here to put down EJC in a misguided effort to promote NYJC again under another yet another new username?

Imp75 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:46 am

zeemimi wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:27 am

Nurulla wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:08 am

Ejc 2nd class Jae treatment is well known by now.

there is some truth to that.
my good friend's DC is JAE in EJC. this problem is so pronounced that during PTC, the teacher had to bring up to my friend that her DC has been ostracized by IP students and that the problem is quite prevalent in the school.

I find it strange that instead of solving the problem and keeping it in check, the tchr feedback this to the parent? What did the tchr expect the parent to do? Tsfr sch?
Separately, isn't this JAE/IP divide "prevalent" in so many IPJC given that 2/3 are from IP? Is EJC JAE students only 10% of cohort or something since there are 3 feeder schools? And doesn't EJC mix the students up in the same class regardless of admission?

doodbug wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:27 pm

Ah? Isn't intake size completely determined by MOE? Even for the Independent JCs.

zeemimi wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:27 am

Nurulla wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:08 am

Ejc 2nd class Jae treatment is well known by now.

there is some truth to that.
my good friend's DC is JAE in EJC. this problem is so pronounced that during PTC, the teacher had to bring up to my friend that her DC has been ostracized by IP students and that the problem is quite prevalent in the school.