UK Universities

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Re: UK Universities

Postby 365psych » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:30 pm

As long as the uni is ranked and has a great alumni why should it matter if its conditional or unconditional acceptance? And why should it matter if the uni is doing good or bad?

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Re: UK Universities

Postby verykiasu2010 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:38 pm

UK has more than 200 uni

only about 30+ has med schools

altogether about 4000 vacancies in med school and thousands more vacancies in biomed

yearly about 8000 plus applications for med school

so it is 50% chance for med school and for biomed, the % acceptance is even higher than med school

it seems easy not because they are lousy -- it is because home ground NUS is ridiculously and EXTREMELY difficult to get in -- 260 vacancies against thousands of applicants - even at the 90th percentile, you need AAA/A to get in and that depends on interviews too .....

so got to see thing in the right perspective

if it is ranked top 10, it is any time "good"
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Re: UK Universities

Postby verykiasu2010 » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:28 pm

the worse problem is that the kids having done med school overseas are unlikely to return to SG because the work environment as a med professional overseas eg UK or OZ, is much better than in SG

was told that in OZ and UK, the colleagues are most willing to help and share knowledge willingly and they really want you to learn so as to share the load, and they are not selfish not to help, so that everyone gets work done early to have an balanced work-life
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Re: UK Universities

Postby 365psych » Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:11 pm

Entry to overseas educational institutes is not difficult. Singapore does not want too many graduates, because where are they going to place them? There aren't enough top level jobs. So if Singaporeans want to leave, go ahead - you can always be replaced by a cheap professional from overseas.

Don't worry. As long as the Uni checks out, has the necessary credentials and a good alumni, just go to UK. Good luck!

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Re: UK Universities

Postby Kissgurami » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:05 am

Unconditional acceptance means that your daughter has satisfied their academic admission criteria and there is nothing the university can do to revoke it. This is much better than conditional acceptance I feel though conditional acceptance doesn't imply that the students ae weaker but they will have fulfill certain criteria to gain admission in that particular course/major.

The UK universities especially in the Top 30 are always competing for their place holdings hence the current situation doesn't mean they are slacking to gain revenue from foreigners :)

Entry Standards & Student satisfaction would be the key factor to look out for

My future sis in law just grad from Bristol Uni (not sure if your daughter is heading there) and they do have fun but she puts in alot of self study to keep her A's where we barely get to see her.

hope this helps :)
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Re: UK Universities

Postby Kissgurami » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:08 am

verykiasu2010 wrote:the worse problem is that the kids having done med school overseas are unlikely to return to SG because the work environment as a med professional overseas eg UK or OZ, is much better than in SG


I beg to differ... but it will go OOT :sweat:

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Re: UK Universities

Postby mensch » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:14 pm

Hi insider. Just to clarify, is your daughter admitted to Medicine at the two UK universities? Or is she considering doing either medicine or biomed?

Am not a doctor myself but have way too many doctor friends :P and some exposure to healthcare manpower planning. The problem isn't really down to the lack of undergrad medical spots at NUS. It's more that later on certain specialties don't have enough locals or junior doctors opt out of traineeship to becomes GPs (or work in the pharmaceutical industry). So we end up having to fill gaps by bringing in foreign doctors. And the GP market is quite saturated. So we're stuck with the current setup. :)

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Re: UK Universities

Postby dragonflysg » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:00 pm

The UK varsities are hit by 2 items. You found 1, which is the cut in funding. The other issue unknown to most Singaporeans is that UK has tightened its work VISAs for non EU graduating students of UK varsities. This means your child may be forced to look for a job in Singapore after you paid your English Pounds for the education. Please check that the degree major is in demand and not cause your child to face crazy competition for jobs and lower pay after your very expensive investment.

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Re: UK Universities

Postby dragonflysg » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:17 pm

I shall copy and post only the relevant part(s). You may wish to read the rest if you are interested. I hope the information will help parents make an informed decision about sending their kids overseas.

Do decide on the course to study only after knowing the end objective, which probably is getting a good job/career, which is not always tagged to academic excellence.

http://www.thecambridgembaadmissions.com/2011/03/22/announcement-on-uk-post-study-visas/

v. closure of the Post Study Work (PSW) visa from April 2012, but graduates with an offer of a skilled job from a sponsoring employer in Tier 2 of the points based system will be able to stay to work.


http://www.varsity.co.uk/news/3513

After public consultation, the Home Office has officially announced changes to student visa rules. The Post Study Work route, which allows international (non-EU) graduates to work in the UK for 2 years after their degree courses, will be closed from April 2012.

There will also be greater restrictions to overseas student working rights while a student. Further, sponsor institutions will need to have a ‘Highly Trusted Sponsor’ status, and from now on only post-graduates on courses that last longer than a year will be able to bring dependents.

Though international students in public universities will retain their current right to work 20 hours week during term time, the new rules stipulate that work placements (out of term work) they undertake must involve a “study : work ratio” of minimum 50:50. Students at private institutions won’t be allowed to work at all during term time.



dragonflysg wrote:The UK varsities are hit by 2 items. You found 1, which is the cut in funding. The other issue unknown to most Singaporeans is that UK has tightened its work VISAs for non EU graduating students of UK varsities. This means your child may be forced to look for a job in Singapore after you paid your English Pounds for the education. Please check that the degree major is in demand and not cause your child to face crazy competition for jobs and lower pay after your very expensive investment.

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