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Re: Picking the Right JC

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:50 pm
by dimsum
gjooheng wrote:
phtthp wrote:
zeemimi wrote:Current H2 math is already overlapping some of the content of F math of many moons ago.
pardon my ignorance ... can Current A level students take F Maths, as a separate H2 or H1 subject, by itself ?
i also heard H2 Further Maths will be reintroduced in 2016. Further math (9234) used to include the following which are not in h2 math:

1. sum and product of roots of polynomials of degree 3 and 4
2. Polar coordinates
3. Mathematical induction on divisibility
4. Integration to find mean values and centroids, arc lengths, surface areas
5. 2nd order differential equations (currently under MOE H3 math)
6. Complex numbers: Using de Movire's theorem to find trigo identities such as cos 5x
7. Vectors: Shortest distance between 2 skew lines
8. Matrices and linear spaces (under NTU or NUS H3 module)
9. Mechanics
10. Statistics such as 2 sample testing, non parametric testing

If H2 further math is reintroduced, H2 math paper is likely to be easier as tough questions shift to further math, just like the old days with Math C and Further Math

Having two H2 maths subjects are good for students with strong maths ability. Able to get A in H2 Further Math is guarantee A for H2 Math.
glad to hear F maths may be reintroduced in 2016!! Double maths combination was the most popular in my JC during my time. Study load was lighter and easy to score As.

Re: Picking the Right JC

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:20 pm
by jtoh
sparks wrote:
Then that student asked, "How come my friend and I both same, have 3 points. But why internally, Moe computer rank us differently ? "

RI lecturer replied that -
for example : maybe one student got 90 marks for H2 Maths, while the other student got 78 marks. So the one that got 90 marks, end up with 3 points, is ranked higher by computer. He said Moe computer keep track of all the marks of JAE students.
Then, what is this in JAE booklet about??
" If there is still a tie between two citizens with the same gross aggregate scores, then posting into the course will be determined by a computerised ballot where each candidate is given an equal opportunity."
That's what I thought I read last year. I assumed recent info superceded this. But if this is in the latest JAE booklet I would take it to be more accurate as it's from the source.

Re: Picking the Right JC

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:24 pm
by lesleer
phtthp wrote:btw, is there H1 Physics in JC, besides H2 Physics ?
a lot of jcs offer h1 physics

Re: Picking the Right JC

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:33 pm
by jtoh
I wonder how F Math would fit into the A level system we have now of taking 4 content subjects with a compulsory contrasting subject. Students who choose F Math would then be doing :

1) Math
2) F Math
3) Physics or Chem or Bio
4) Contrasting subject

Doesn't make much sense to be doing 2 Maths and 1 Science. In the old days, there was no contrasting subject requirement so students would take double math and double science.

Unless MOE is planning to rethink the A levels altogether. Or have students take 5 content subjects. Or relegate the contrasting subject to H1.

Re: Picking the Right JC

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:00 pm
by dimsum
jtoh wrote:I wonder how F Math would fit into the A level system we have now of taking 4 content subjects with a compulsory contrasting subject. Students who choose F Math would then be doing :

1) Math
2) F Math
3) Physics or Chem or Bio
4) Contrasting subject

Doesn't make much sense to be doing 2 Maths and 1 Science. In the old days, there was no contrasting subject requirement so students would take double math and double science.

Unless MOE is planning to rethink the A levels altogether. Or have students take 5 content subjects. Or relegate the contrasting subject to H1.
In the old days, it was either double maths, double science (physics n chemistry) or double maths, econs n physics. About 50-50 between these 2 combis.

Re: Picking the Right JC

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:10 pm
by gjooheng
last time, i took math C, further math, physics and econs. this combination is ideal for engineering courses. Further math, physics and econs make year 1 engineering a piece of cake.

Re: Picking the Right JC

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:12 pm
by sparks
jtoh wrote:
" If there is still a tie between two citizens with the same gross aggregate scores, then posting into the course will be determined by a computerised ballot where each candidate is given an equal opportunity."
That's what I thought I read last year. I assumed recent info superceded this. But if this is in the latest JAE booklet I would take it to be more accurate as it's from the source.
This is from the latest JAE.

Re: Picking the Right JC

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:14 pm
by justMommy
Highly agree.

F maths sets a good foundation for any course in Uni.

Re: Picking the Right JC

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:17 pm
by phtthp
gjooheng wrote:last time, i took math C, further math, physics and econs. this combination is ideal for engineering courses. Further math, physics and econs make year 1 engineering a piece of cake.
If take H1 Physics instead of H2 Physics -
do students still need to do bridging Physics in NUS Electrical / Electronic Engineering faculty, or can't even enter NUS Electrical / Electronic / Mechanical Engineering, because H1 Physics is not good enough, must need H2 Physics then can ?

Is H1 Physics the same as O level Physics, or higher ?

Re: Picking the Right JC

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:22 pm
by dimsum
gjooheng wrote:last time, i took math C, further math, physics and econs. this combination is ideal for engineering courses. Further math, physics and econs make year 1 engineering a piece of cake.
I took this combi too. It was also ideal for accountancy and business courses Yr 1 as statistics n econs were already learnt in JC.