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Re: DSA 2018

Postby my_melody92 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:08 pm

After reading so much precious n valuable sharing, my mind is clearer.

Just to share my thots / my priorities:
- my kid's academic level is not the top definitely. Probably avg to abit above avg range in his n'hood sch. Doubt his academic level allow him to take so much time to train for sports n yet maintain satisfactory results. Hence am not prep to drill to that extent, for DSA.
- i want him to enjoy life sufficiently. Stress is inevitable and not nece negative but not be OVERLY stressed.
(Last week teacher gave a "All About Me" sheet upon sch reopen...perhaps as part of "p5 orientation". The part on What am i afraid of....he wrote he is worried abt his PSLE. That made me abit concerned as i need to help him manage expectation n anxiety when every enrichmt n sch teacher tell them "P5 is v tough", "P5 is a big jump", "Your P6 results is already determined at p5!"...)
- given opportunity, i will still consider letting him hv external coaching for his badmton...for the purpose of fitness n honing skills.

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Re: DSA 2018

Postby floppy » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:32 pm

While I do not wish to discourage or pour cold water, I think we have to be realistic about the chances for DSA so as not to waste time and to channel the limited time to PSLE preparation.

Badminton is one of the toughest sport to DSA, especially if you are aiming for top schools, due to the sheer number of players and high standard of competition. Fortunately, it is also one of the few sports that almost every school (even non-medal contenders) is opening up for DSA consideration, e.g. CGS as mentioned earlier. Therefore, if you aren't looking at the top badminton schools (last year's C/B Div top 4, excluding SSS are RI, RGS, ACS, SNGS, DHS, SCGS... err, notice the pattern? They are also top tiered schools), there's always a chance.

Plus, SBA is one of the most progressive NSA. They will be launching a national ranking system starting from Under-9, U-11, U-13, etc this year. Anyone can sign up for the national ranking system and earn points every time they participate in SBA events and SBA Sanctioned local competitions. While you may be a school reserve player, you can participate in other age-group competitions and prove yourself elsewhere.
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Re: DSA 2018

Postby doodbug » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:36 pm

floppy wrote:While I do not wish to discourage or pour cold water, I think we have to be realistic about the chances for DSA so as not to waste time and to channel the limited time to PSLE preparation.

Badminton is one of the toughest sport to DSA, especially if you are aiming for top schools, due to the sheer number of players and high standard of competition. Fortunately, it is also one of the few sports that almost every school (even non-medal contenders) is opening up for DSA consideration, e.g. CGS as mentioned earlier. Therefore, if you aren't looking at the top badminton schools (RI, RGS, ACS, SNGS, DHS, SCGS... err, notice the pattern? They are also top tiered schools), there's always a chance.

Plus, SBA is one of the most progressive NSA. They will be launching a national ranking system starting from Under-9, U-11, U-13, etc this year. Anyone can sign up for the national ranking system and earn points every time they participate in SBA events and SBA Sanctioned local competitions. While you may be a school reserve player, you still can participate in other age-group competitions and prove yourself elsewhere.


I agree that Badminton is one of the toughest sports to DSA - it is far more so for Boys.

If you are willing to consider so called next tier schools like say Nan Hua, River Valley, Crescent, Fairfield etc, the standards required are not as formidable, and I would say, you stand a chance if you are a school team player. Not everyone aims for the 'top' schools.

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Re: DSA 2018

Postby floppy » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:17 pm

doodbug wrote:
I agree that Badminton is one of the toughest sports to DSA - it is far more so for Boys.

If you are willing to consider so called next tier schools like say Nan Hua, River Valley, Crescent, Fairfield etc, the standards required are not as formidable, and I would say, you stand a chance if you are a school team player. Not everyone aims for the 'top' schools.


I am not sure about the standard of competition between girls and boys but I do know my friend’s kid - boy, born in 2007 - is actively participating and winning competitions in both SG and MY. I think the kid must be good because he appears on the first page of the National U-13 combined rankings. He trains more than 5x a week, eats and breathes (and I suspect even dreams of) badminton.

Nonetheless, my_melody92 shouldn’t be disheartened though. As most KSP parents here only aim or look at top schools, it can distort the impression of DSA somewhat. If you are willing to consider schools less formidable in badminton, there are a lot of options and in some of these schools, her kid may stand a very good chance.

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Re: DSA 2018

Postby my_melody92 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:13 pm

In all honesty i am not aiming for top sch.
But an above average one..
And as mentioned below, i shld think am less inclined for DSA (and would channel efforts on academic instead).

my_melody92 wrote:After reading so much precious n valuable sharing, my mind is clearer.

Just to share my thots / my priorities:
- my kid's academic level is not the top definitely. Probably avg to abit above avg range in his n'hood sch. Doubt his academic level allow him to take so much time to train for sports n yet maintain satisfactory results. Hence am not prep to drill to that extent, for DSA.
- i want him to enjoy life sufficiently. Stress is inevitable and not nece negative but not be OVERLY stressed.
(Last week teacher gave a "All About Me" sheet upon sch reopen...perhaps as part of "p5 orientation". The part on What am i afraid of....he wrote he is worried abt his PSLE. That made me abit concerned as i need to help him manage expectation n anxiety when every enrichmt n sch teacher tell them "P5 is v tough", "P5 is a big jump", "Your P6 results is already determined at p5!"...)
- given opportunity, i will still consider letting him hv external coaching for his badmton...for the purpose of fitness n honing skills.

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Re: DSA 2018

Postby zac's mum » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:40 pm

@floppy, just for mere discussion’s sake...what do u think of a radical overhaul of the entire secondary school posting system...change to all entry by DSA/selection interviews? Academic and other portfolio to be considered too of course, if the candidates have these to showcase.

Make it all like real-life job interview scenario. After all, that’s what future working life will be like. Let the secondary schools pick the best applicants, according to what criteria they value.

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Re: DSA 2018

Postby floppy » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:34 pm

zac's mum wrote:@floppy, just for mere discussion’s sake...what do u think of a radical overhaul of the entire secondary school posting system...change to all entry by DSA/selection interviews? Academic and other portfolio to be considered too of course, if the candidates have these to showcase.

Make it all like real-life job interview scenario. After all, that’s what future working life will be like. Let the secondary schools pick the best applicants, according to what criteria they value.


The system is already broken. Don't make it worst :lol:

The only people who will benefit if there's a change to all entry by DSA / selection interviews / portfolio etc would be the rich, well-to-do and well-connected, which usually means the same people.

Frankly, as much as I hate to admit, to be good in any particular sports / performing arts etc, you need training and coaching, and these cost :moneyflies: Furthermore, if one has to train or be coached on before or after hours (e.g. 5am swimming / running), you need time and someone able to chauffeur or chaperone the kid. Guess who are the ones with the time to do this long term?

A small handful of people may be extremely talented without training or coaching, but by and large, it's 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration. The current scholarship and public assistance can only support a small group of people. It's not easy to develop a good portfolio but at least, the current system calls for some balance. Exams is 'supposedly' meritocractic (though the well-to-do is still likely to do better, all things being even, as they have more resources to call on, e.g. tuition) and is less lopsided that a 100% DSA / selection interviews.

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Re: DSA 2018

Postby zac's mum » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:23 am

Hmmm...yes now I do see the bigger picture. The bulk of primary school education system is spent teaching the kids on the academic syllabus while they are all physically in attendance. So indeed for graduation they should rightfully be assessed on what they have been taught, and the weightage be given accordingly.

By the way there are some sports & performing arts where the barriers to entry are low (ie the kids don’t need rich parents to be able to excel in that field). Eg soccer, basketball, track & field (a kid who is self-motivated can and will spend endless hours practising of his own accord, at the free neighborhood facilities). Talented actors and cartoonists don’t need super expensive training either (they just need an experienced mentor to come along).

Kind of similar to how if a kid really likes to study, can spend all day studying and excel. But there’s room for richer parents to cough up $$ for more expensive tuition/coaching, which tilts the playing field.

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Re: DSA 2018

Postby peasants » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:08 am

my_melody92 wrote:In all honesty i am not aiming for top sch.
But an above average one..
And as mentioned below, i shld think am less inclined for DSA (and would channel efforts on academic instead).

my_melody92 wrote:After reading so much precious n valuable sharing, my mind is clearer.

Just to share my thots / my priorities:
- my kid's academic level is not the top definitely. Probably avg to abit above avg range in his n'hood sch. Doubt his academic level allow him to take so much time to train for sports n yet maintain satisfactory results. Hence am not prep to drill to that extent, for DSA.
- i want him to enjoy life sufficiently. Stress is inevitable and not nece negative but not be OVERLY stressed.
(Last week teacher gave a "All About Me" sheet upon sch reopen...perhaps as part of "p5 orientation". The part on What am i afraid of....he wrote he is worried abt his PSLE. That made me abit concerned as i need to help him manage expectation n anxiety when every enrichmt n sch teacher tell them "P5 is v tough", "P5 is a big jump", "Your P6 results is already determined at p5!"...)
- given opportunity, i will still consider letting him hv external coaching for his badmton...for the purpose of fitness n honing skills.


Your situation now is exactly what I went through back then. I think it is actually good for your boy to be worried of PSLE at P5, you could use this to kickstart his prep work for PSLE. At least better than my case where teacher told DD she cmi. For now on, you will be swinging your decision here and there especially on DSA.You can pm me anytime.

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Re: DSA 2018

Postby octbride » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:16 am

Hi my_melody
Ur situation is the same as mine. Though my kid is younger than urs, I already hopping that he can go via dsA (avg sch) will do, not aiming for any top schools as he is an average kid.

Don’t want him to struggle between academics and cca at top schools.

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