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Is PSLE so important?

Unlike entry to Primary Schools, admission into Secondary Schools is based on meritocracy. PSLE results are used as key admission criteria. Discuss everything related to PSLE and selection of Secondary Schools here.
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ngl2010
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Re: All About PSLE

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Post by ngl2010 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:43 pm

My son will be P6 next year. Prior to this year, he only has Chinese tuition once a week because we do not speak Chinese at all at home. This year we added English tuition and Science tuition just because his results dropped from 90+ to 80+. How not to feel stress when getting to good secondary school is already hard enough but now there is IP and IP cut-off point is higher than O Level?

Why create another level of elitism?

If IP cut-off point is the same as for O level, wouldn't it be less stressful for parents and the kids?
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Post by wonderm » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:46 pm

SAHM_TAN wrote: Errrrr, I also don't think DSA is a must becos there's PSLE :lol:

I mean if the child has a particular talent in academic or sports or arts and the dream school is able to nurture the child to greater heights then try lor.
With your objective thinking and level-headedness, you and your DC won't be too stressed. No wonder you said not announcing top scorers won't matter in terms of stress level. I am with you. :hugs:
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Post by SAHM_TAN » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:45 pm

wonderm wrote:
SAHM_TAN wrote: Errrrr, I also don't think DSA is a must becos there's PSLE :lol:

I mean if the child has a particular talent in academic or sports or arts and the dream school is able to nurture the child to greater heights then try lor.
With your objective thinking and level-headedness, you and your DC won't be too stressed. No wonder you said not announcing top scorers won't matter in terms of stress level. I am with you. :hugs:
I will still worry lah :smile:

And I also have my plans for the kiddos :wink:
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Post by SAHM_TAN » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:55 pm

ngl2010 wrote:My son will be P6 next year. Prior to this year, he only has Chinese tuition once a week because we do not speak Chinese at all at home. This year we added English tuition and Science tuition just because his results dropped from 90+ to 80+. How not to feel stress when getting to good secondary school is already hard enough but now there is IP and IP cut-off point is higher than O Level?

Why create another level of elitism?

If IP cut-off point is the same as for O level, wouldn't it be less stressful for parents and the kids?
IP is designed for kids who will definitely progress to Uni. Whether this is the right way to go, I will not comment. The depth and breath of materials covered is different from O levels.

Like during my time, there were pre-u (3 yrs to A levels exam) and JC (2 yrs to A level exams) Just treat IP as the new JCs and O level as the new pre-u, you will feel less stressful abt the whole situation.

I don't think every child who has the ability to progress to Uni education is suitable for IP.

All the best to your child in the next yr's PSLE.
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Post by SAHM_TAN » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:06 pm

Just to add. I don't think another level of elitism has been created becos of IP. Just see it as rebranding :rotflmao:

For schools that offered just IP, those already very tough to get in previously, the difficulty level has not increased really. As for schools that offered both IP and O level just view it as super express lor :rotflmao:

The rest of the schools have express, NA and NT streams. Do the kids from express stream feel they are the elites?
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Post by janet88 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:10 pm

wonderm wrote:
SAHM_TAN wrote: I mean if the child has a particular talent in academic or sports or arts and the dream school is able to nurture the child to greater heights then try lor.
With your objective thinking and level-headedness, you and your DC won't be too stressed. No wonder you said not announcing top scorers won't matter in terms of stress level. I am with you. :hugs:
If the child is talented and the school will nurture him/her, go for DSA or IP.
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Post by janet88 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:20 pm

ngl2010 wrote:My son will be P6 next year. Prior to this year, he only has Chinese tuition once a week because we do not speak Chinese at all at home. This year we added English tuition and Science tuition just because his results dropped from 90+ to 80+.
My son had Chinese tuition since P1 bcos we hardly speak Chinese and I don't know how to coach him. He had Math tuition since P5 last year bcos he flunked and hubby doesn't know how to coach. For Science, he is only in the 60s range in P5...can't go beyond 70 until we engaged a tutor and scored 70 for prelims.

Hubby and I know our boy is not IP or DSA calibre...if he can get 240-245 for PSLE (and we will know tomorrow), we are contended...honestly. Son already told us that this year's exams are challenging. We saw how hard he had worked this year and that is an achievement. A mummy here mentioned 'paper luck'...hard work aside, I believe there is indeed this thing called luck.
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Post by slmkhoo » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:47 pm

ngl2010 wrote:My son will be P6 next year. Prior to this year, he only has Chinese tuition once a week because we do not speak Chinese at all at home. This year we added English tuition and Science tuition just because his results dropped from 90+ to 80+. How not to feel stress when getting to good secondary school is already hard enough but now there is IP and IP cut-off point is higher than O Level?

Why create another level of elitism?

If IP cut-off point is the same as for O level, wouldn't it be less stressful for parents and the kids?
I wonder why you feel the need to aim for IP? If your child cannot get in relatively easily, why not just go for the 'O' level route? There are only a very few schools which are IP-only, and many 'good' schools have an 'O' level track. Both routes lead to university.

And since schools' COPs are set by demand and supply, if there were no IP schools to cream off some of the top scorers, these students would apply for the 'O' level route and drive up COPs. To have no difference between the 2 would mean either reverting to the 4+2 secondary education for all, or everyone doing 6 years.
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Post by slmkhoo » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:54 pm

wonderm wrote:
SAHM_TAN wrote:Just to add, for me the various academic competitions are not part of what I view as primary school education.

For me those are extras for parents and kids who wish to develop themselves further in particular niche and to achieve certain objectives.
Ideally that is the case. But with DSA in mind, many parents are preparing their children from young for all kinds of academic and non-academic competitions. This is to beef up their portfolio and increase their chance of success during DSA. It is becoming a part of the primary school education. I am not saying it is a good or bad thing. I guess there is no simple answer. It really depends on the child and how the parents and the entire education system help to strike a balance somewhere.
I don't actually understand how come DSA became something that so many try to aim for. My memory was that DSA was introduced to help students who have skewed abilities - eg. extremely good in a sport, performance skill or a single subject, but mediocre or even poor overall. But somewhere along the way, it became just another way to get into sec school, even for those with strong academic performance overall who would probably do quite well in PSLE. If DSA were only for the exceptionally talented in a single area, then maybe there wouldn't be such a strong interest in building a portfolio or grooming students for it. The vast majority would just rely on PSLE performance.
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Post by janet88 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:41 pm

I never knew that DSA can be used for academic too :razz: always thought it is for sports excellence.
DSA confirmation is known only on same day of PSLE results right? I thought I read something like that in the sec school listing. If cream of the crop takes IP route, it will help the overall cohort by not driving up the COP of sec schools.
I support this wholeheartedly.

Son finished PSLE and I don't know know details of this IP/IB thing... :oops:
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