Chinese impt in secondary level?
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I thought that based on on the PSLE scores, the MOE will offer the HCL option to the student and then they can decide whether to take it or not. Do let me know if my understanding is incorrect. Thanks[/quote]
Yes, to take HCL you have to meet certain criteria, which I've quoted below. But at SAP schools and NJC, HCL is compulsory.
Quoted from MOE:
Pupils who offer Mother Tongue Language (MTL)(i.e. Chinese/ Malay/ Tamil) or HMTL (i.e. Higher Chinese/ Higher Malay/ Higher Tamil) at the PSLE and
* are ranked among the top 10% of the PSLE; or
* are in the top 11% - 30% band who meet the language criteria (i.e. an A* grade in the MTL or at least a Merit in the HMTL)
may opt to study HMTL at secondary schools.[/quote]
Thanks for the clarification!
Yes, to take HCL you have to meet certain criteria, which I've quoted below. But at SAP schools and NJC, HCL is compulsory.
Quoted from MOE:
Pupils who offer Mother Tongue Language (MTL)(i.e. Chinese/ Malay/ Tamil) or HMTL (i.e. Higher Chinese/ Higher Malay/ Higher Tamil) at the PSLE and
* are ranked among the top 10% of the PSLE; or
* are in the top 11% - 30% band who meet the language criteria (i.e. an A* grade in the MTL or at least a Merit in the HMTL)
may opt to study HMTL at secondary schools.[/quote]
Thanks for the clarification!
Hi INNOVATE,INNOVATE wrote: Is my dd taking IB(yr 5) next year. My ds attempting A-level exam next year. Wishing your kids well in their academic endeavours.
There is a lot of talk going on comparing IB vs A-level. With one child doing IB and another doing A-level, you are in a unique position to authentically comment from your first-hand experience. Although it is out-of-topic in this thread, can you just briefly give your views comparing IB vs A-level? I am very keen to know from someone like you who had seen both. (I hope other members too will be keen to know your inputs).
However, if you do not want to comment in this thread, please PM me if you can spare time. I am most grateful.
Thanks and Regards.
Innovate, would really appreiciate if you want to tell us ur thoughts in this debated topic....tiger262 wrote:Hi INNOVATE,INNOVATE wrote: Is my dd taking IB(yr 5) next year. My ds attempting A-level exam next year. Wishing your kids well in their academic endeavours.
There is a lot of talk going on comparing IB vs A-level. With one child doing IB and another doing A-level, you are in a unique position to authentically comment from your first-hand experience. Although it is out-of-topic in this thread, can you just briefly give your views comparing IB vs A-level? I am very keen to know from someone like you who had seen both. (I hope other members too will be keen to know your inputs).
However, if you do not want to comment in this thread, please PM me if you can spare time. I am most grateful.
Thanks and Regards.
Hi INNOVATE,INNOVATE wrote:octopusmum
Let your ds take HCL instead of CL for reasons outlined in my earlier postings. At sec 3, he will be asked to take 0-level CL togehter with the 0-level cohort. Basing on his result, you can make an informed choice whether to take HCL. All in all, your ds will have a total of 3 chances(if he drops HCL eventually at sec 3) to improve his CL score instead of two for students taking CL.
At any point of time, the school will ask him to drop to express level if he is deemed unable to cope. No worries.
You mean if ds pass the HCL in sec 3, he will be exempted to study CL in sec 4 and use this result to apply JC after O-level?
S-H
A HCL student is required to sit for O-level CL at sec 3 with the exception of few top schools. Prior to this, some schools have the policy of asking its weaker students to drop to CL at end of sec 2. Subject to satisfactory performance at O-level, students proceed to continue to study HCL. All HCL students including all top schools take the HCL O-level exam at year 4.
HCL can be used as a L1 in place of English but not as one of R5 in the computation of O-Level score though a 2 bonus pt is given. Henceforth, despite its advantages, a student with a weaker foundation should not attempt it as it is detrimental to one's academic situation.
Upon passing HCL O-level, a student is deemed to have fufilled our unis MT entrance requirement. All those who are at express level have to continue studying at H1/IB standard level.
A HCL student is required to sit for O-level CL at sec 3 with the exception of few top schools. Prior to this, some schools have the policy of asking its weaker students to drop to CL at end of sec 2. Subject to satisfactory performance at O-level, students proceed to continue to study HCL. All HCL students including all top schools take the HCL O-level exam at year 4.
HCL can be used as a L1 in place of English but not as one of R5 in the computation of O-Level score though a 2 bonus pt is given. Henceforth, despite its advantages, a student with a weaker foundation should not attempt it as it is detrimental to one's academic situation.
Upon passing HCL O-level, a student is deemed to have fufilled our unis MT entrance requirement. All those who are at express level have to continue studying at H1/IB standard level.
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Milan goes gaga over Mandarin
Oct 21, 2010
Milan goes gaga over Mandarin
MILAN (Italy) - A TOTAL of 18 high schools in Lombardy region, whose capital is Milan, have put Chinese in the curriculum this year, showing a growing interest towards Chinese culture in the Italy's most industrialized district.
Some 1,500 ordinary students throughout the northern region are studying Mandarin, which is becoming a foreign language more and more popular with Italy, following the recent Education Ministry' s decision to include Chinese among the curricular languages in high schools.
"Chinese is the language of the future. I am doing my best efforts to learn it, as I am sure to have done the right choice," a student of Milan's Manzoni High School, Camilla, told Xinhua.
Her classmate Sara said that she decided to study Mandarin after choosing China as a main topic of her middle school term paper.
"I was so fascinated by the vastness of this country and its millenary history that I decided to deepen its knowledge," she stressed.
"The most moving moment since I began learning Chinese was when our teachers took us to visit a Terracotta Warriors exhibition in Treviso," said 17-year-old Federico, adding that he particularly enjoys the deep relation between Chinese language and culture. -- CHINA DAILY/ANN
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNew ... 93491.html
Milan goes gaga over Mandarin
MILAN (Italy) - A TOTAL of 18 high schools in Lombardy region, whose capital is Milan, have put Chinese in the curriculum this year, showing a growing interest towards Chinese culture in the Italy's most industrialized district.
Some 1,500 ordinary students throughout the northern region are studying Mandarin, which is becoming a foreign language more and more popular with Italy, following the recent Education Ministry' s decision to include Chinese among the curricular languages in high schools.
"Chinese is the language of the future. I am doing my best efforts to learn it, as I am sure to have done the right choice," a student of Milan's Manzoni High School, Camilla, told Xinhua.
Her classmate Sara said that she decided to study Mandarin after choosing China as a main topic of her middle school term paper.
"I was so fascinated by the vastness of this country and its millenary history that I decided to deepen its knowledge," she stressed.
"The most moving moment since I began learning Chinese was when our teachers took us to visit a Terracotta Warriors exhibition in Treviso," said 17-year-old Federico, adding that he particularly enjoys the deep relation between Chinese language and culture. -- CHINA DAILY/ANN
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNew ... 93491.html
tiger 262, Sun_2010
Much have been said about A-level vs IB education in recent yrs, as such, I shall not dicuss on the merits of each as the discussion will merely be my own perspective at best. Instead, I shall outline the general grading system of each type which I think is more beneficial.
A-Level Education
4 H2 + Project Wk + General Paper or
3 H2 + 1H1 + Project + General Paper
Notes: 1. 1 of the content subject must be contrasting ie if 3 H2 are all science subjects the other H2/H1 must be from arts domain. A typical student may offer H2 Phy, Chem, Maths H2/H1 Econs.
2. PW is taken at JC-1/yr5
3. GP is compulsory, however, it can be sustituted with Theory of Knowledge which by itselt is a contrasting subject.
University Rank Pts
H2-A=20 pts, every grade down minus 2.5 pts.
H1-A=10 pts, every grade down minus 1.25 pts.
Max 90 rank pts.
Universities world-wide take into account 3H2 + 1H1 + PW + GP at one sitting. For those who took 4H2, the weakest H2 is regarded as H1. H3 is not relevant in the computation, however, it is for top students vying for scholarships.
IBDP
3 subjects at higher level
3 subjects at standard level
3 core subjects mainly, theorey of knowledge(1200-1600 words)'extended essay(4000 words) and creativity, action,service-150 hrs.
3 HL and 3 SL must be chosen from six main grps comprising of:
Grp1 English Lit
Grp 2 Second lang CL/ML HL and SL
Tamil/Hindi SL
Grp 3 Humanities Hist/Geog/Social Sc/Econs
Grp 4 Science Phy/Bio/Chem
Grp 5 Maths
Grp 6 Arts Music/Dance/Theatre/Visual arts
Grp 6 may be sustituted with one subject from above 5 grps.
Grading System 1-7 pts for each subject for both HL and SL.
Max 6x7=42 pts, with the remainding max 3 pts from theory of knowledge and extended essay. Total 45 pts.
You will observe from above the main difference in the gradings. A level is more structured whereas, IB is more broad base and attempts to offer different perspective in the training of students' minds. In fact, in recent yrs, with the introduction of a contrasting subject, A- level is moving closer to IB. Both are equally rigorous and well-known internationally. Our A-level grading system is recongnised by Oxbridge to be of higher standard than those taking Cambridge A-level. MOE sets damn high standard! IB though lesser known locally is highly regarded in countries like Australia, Canada and many parts of Europe. In many of these nations, IB is ranked higher than their own high school diplomas.
In conclusion, parents know their kids best. Selection must be based on kids' attributes and peace of heart and mind. Let commonsense prevail!
Much have been said about A-level vs IB education in recent yrs, as such, I shall not dicuss on the merits of each as the discussion will merely be my own perspective at best. Instead, I shall outline the general grading system of each type which I think is more beneficial.
A-Level Education
4 H2 + Project Wk + General Paper or
3 H2 + 1H1 + Project + General Paper
Notes: 1. 1 of the content subject must be contrasting ie if 3 H2 are all science subjects the other H2/H1 must be from arts domain. A typical student may offer H2 Phy, Chem, Maths H2/H1 Econs.
2. PW is taken at JC-1/yr5
3. GP is compulsory, however, it can be sustituted with Theory of Knowledge which by itselt is a contrasting subject.
University Rank Pts
H2-A=20 pts, every grade down minus 2.5 pts.
H1-A=10 pts, every grade down minus 1.25 pts.
Max 90 rank pts.
Universities world-wide take into account 3H2 + 1H1 + PW + GP at one sitting. For those who took 4H2, the weakest H2 is regarded as H1. H3 is not relevant in the computation, however, it is for top students vying for scholarships.
IBDP
3 subjects at higher level
3 subjects at standard level
3 core subjects mainly, theorey of knowledge(1200-1600 words)'extended essay(4000 words) and creativity, action,service-150 hrs.
3 HL and 3 SL must be chosen from six main grps comprising of:
Grp1 English Lit
Grp 2 Second lang CL/ML HL and SL
Tamil/Hindi SL
Grp 3 Humanities Hist/Geog/Social Sc/Econs
Grp 4 Science Phy/Bio/Chem
Grp 5 Maths
Grp 6 Arts Music/Dance/Theatre/Visual arts
Grp 6 may be sustituted with one subject from above 5 grps.
Grading System 1-7 pts for each subject for both HL and SL.
Max 6x7=42 pts, with the remainding max 3 pts from theory of knowledge and extended essay. Total 45 pts.
You will observe from above the main difference in the gradings. A level is more structured whereas, IB is more broad base and attempts to offer different perspective in the training of students' minds. In fact, in recent yrs, with the introduction of a contrasting subject, A- level is moving closer to IB. Both are equally rigorous and well-known internationally. Our A-level grading system is recongnised by Oxbridge to be of higher standard than those taking Cambridge A-level. MOE sets damn high standard! IB though lesser known locally is highly regarded in countries like Australia, Canada and many parts of Europe. In many of these nations, IB is ranked higher than their own high school diplomas.
In conclusion, parents know their kids best. Selection must be based on kids' attributes and peace of heart and mind. Let commonsense prevail!
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