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band vs cop?

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:27 pm
by funtimegalz
hello

don't really understand the relation between the 2. seems like related to the stars of achievement? can someone kindly explain as I am still trying to figure out which sec school to choose

tks

Re: band vs cop?

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:42 pm
by iikengkeng
funtimegalz wrote:hello

don't really understand the relation between the 2. seems like related to the stars of achievement? can someone kindly explain as I am still trying to figure out which sec school to choose

tks
Think of it as INPUT (COP) vs OUTPUT (GCE O Level Results banding)

If Input is 50, output is 50 -> no value add
If Input is 50, output is more than 50, say 70 -> value add

So take for example, NanChiau's Input COP was <220 4 years ago, now output is Band 1 results, then there is a lot of Academic Value Add.

HTH

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:53 pm
by leesf
I notice some schools have higher cop which do not have any banding than those schools with lower cop which are banded. So does that mean higher input (cop) may not produce good 'O' level results?

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:19 pm
by xxjustakidxx
leesf wrote:I notice some schools have higher cop which do not have any banding than those schools with lower cop which are banded. So does that mean higher input (cop) may not produce good 'O' level results?
Hwachong, raffles, etc? they don't take o level and hence not banded

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:27 pm
by iikengkeng
leesf wrote:I notice some schools have higher cop which do not have any banding than those schools with lower cop which are banded. So does that mean higher input (cop) may not produce good 'O' level results?
Yes, some schools have high COP but banding is not so good.

There are some schools which consistently get 'Academic value add' stars. Why? becos they accept affiliated students with lower COP, hence the room for value add is there -> they consistently get stars for 'Academic value add'.

Look at St Margaret and Crescent. SM will get Academic value add stars easier than Crescent. Can u figure it out?

Another school which always get such stars is PLMGPS.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:14 pm
by JonC
Banding, there are some possible tricks which can push L1B5 better, that is letting only those who can achieve good scores to go for O Level by reducing the number of students.

As for how to reduce (I know at least 3 ways), you can go and figure out.

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:11 am
by atutor2001
JonC wrote:Banding, there are some possible tricks which can push L1B5 better, that is letting only those who can achieve good scores to go for O Level by reducing the number of students.

As for how to reduce (I know at least 3 ways), you can go and figure out.
Fully agreed. It is also happening in JC. Even happening in some elite Pr Sch to maintain good PSLE results - kind of sad state.

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:41 am
by hashroop
what is meant by Autonomous Schools(AS)?

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:13 pm
by JonC
Means the school and the school management has a lot more say than other school when comes to many decision affecting the school.

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:41 pm
by Kiasu Friend
JonC wrote:Means the school and the school management has a lot more say than other school when comes to many decision affecting the school.
Thank you JonC.

Can you please explain how 'autonomous schools' differ from 'independent' schools? It is somewhat confusing.

Thanks and regards.