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Pure Sceince offering schools

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:15 pm
by ga2004
Hi my daughter scored 246. I am hearing not all schools offer the 3 science subjects . We are considering

1.Cedar
2.crescent
3.Bukit panjang
4. Anderson
5. Xinmin
6. ?

Can any one tell me how the 3 science subjects affects the students entering JC? How many of the above schools offer it? If they have taken only 2 science does that mean they will not be able to take another science in JC. Would appreciate your views.

Re: Pure Sceince offering schools

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:09 pm
by koguma
While choosing Sec 3 subjects for my niece this year, I have checked out few schools on their subjects combination. Below info is from XinMin Sec .

1) Triple Science
Must be very strong in all sciences.
(Triple sciences is no longer offered in JCs)

2) Pure Physics & Chemistry
Foundation for engineering-type courses.
Chemistry is the main science that is required in most higher education courses. “O”Level Biology is not required for many biology related courses. (E.g Medical studies in NUS)

3) Pure Biology and Chemistry
For those who are interested in, and good at life sciences but find Physics concepts hard to grasp

Most schools offer option 1 and option 2. Not many schools offer option 3, (surprisingly most Girls School offer this option, on top of option 1 and 2).

Currently, most schools break down the Sec 1 and 2 Science curriculum based on the three components. Based on their Sec 1 and 2 results, the students will know which Science components they are good at and hence choose the best Science option (Triple Pure or Double Pure or even combined Science) that suits them.

From what I read from some JCs websites,
1) If you do combined science (phy/chem), you must get A1 or A2 in order to do H2 Physics and H2 Chemistry in JC.

2) You can only do the Science components which you did in Sec 3 and 4. Example if you did not do Biology (Pure or combined), high chance you cannot do Biology in JC. (unless you can convince the principal).

3) If you are in the Science stream in JC, you MUST have one Art Subject (contrast subject). Because of this reason, it is rare but possible to find a student in JC doing Triple Science and Maths (consider Science subj). You need to convince the principal that you are good enough to cope with 4 Science subject s and 1 Art subject in JC.

4) If you prefer to do Arts in JC, you don't need to use Science subjects to be in the L1R5 computation. Example you can use the following subjects only: English, 2nd Lang, EMaths, AMaths, Pure Lit, SS/Geog elective.

Below is the briefing slides for the Sec 2 students from Bukit panjang for your reference. You can go to Xinmin and Anderson websites to check out their slides.
http://www.bpghs.moe.edu.sg/press_relea ... 001142.pdf

Your daughter score of 246 is a good score. If she likes Science and wants to be “stretched”, you should choose those schools which allow students to do 9 ‘O’ level subjects: 2 Lang, 2 Maths, 3 Sciences, 2 Humanities.

Humanities is a MUST for L1B5 computation, hence it is advisable to do 2 Humanities than 1. Most schools only offer 1 Humanities for Triple Science classes.

Alternatively if your daughter prefers Humanities than Science, then let her do 2 Pure Science and 2 Humanities or 1 science and 2 Humanities.

Looking at your choices, I cannot comment much on Cedar and Cresent as I cannot get the sec 3 subjects info from the schools website. But I know that Bukit panjang, Anderson and Xinmin allow their better students to do 9 ‘O’ level subjects (or even 10 if the student do two 1st Lang). In addition, they also allow students to do other subjects like Arts, Design and Technology, Music, Economics, 3rd Lang, on top of the 2 Pure Sciences/combined Science. This is to cater for students who don’t like Science.

Hope the info is useful for you.

thanks a lot

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:25 pm
by ga2004
Thats very usefull information. Now I have finished the S1 positng. let me wait and see to get into the school.

Thank you very much

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:25 pm
by twilight
Just some additional info. Cedar offers triple science too. But most students only take 8 subjects as we are recommended to prioritise to get the lowest possible score for L1R5.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:48 pm
by MoonFlower
Victoria only offer pure science. Zhong Hua offers complusory pure chemistry and the other depend on yr result.

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:26 am
by koguma
MoonFlower wrote:Victoria only offer pure science. Zhong Hua offers complusory pure chemistry and the other depend on yr result.
Although VS offer pure science, but they do allow student to do Double Sci (Pure Phy and Pur Chem) but not Pure Chem and Pure Bio. One thing I like about VS is they allow student to do Double Pure Sciences and D&T/Arts/Music/PE.

Some schools only allow Triple Pure Sci or combined Sci and not Double Pure Sci.

However, I am wondering for all these schools, what will they do to those students who failed their Pure Science or AMaths in Sec 3 and 4. Are they still doing Pure Sciences in'O' or ask to switch to sit for combined Sci?
Anyone can advise?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:16 am
by YLH88
Hi,

Would like to find out what kind of grades must the child get in order to qualify for triple science in Sec 3 ?

Thank you!

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:13 pm
by happymum8
Victoria School Criteria:

All students who wish to offer the nine subject combinations -triple sciences VS3A, VS3B, VS3C, VS3D, VS3E and VS3F) should meet the following three criteria:
a) greater than or equal to 75% for Total Overall Average
b) greater than or equal to 75% for the average of the following:
English (Overall), Maths (Overall), Science (Overall) AND one best Humanities (Overall)
c) be in the top 30 of the cohort applying for the 9-subject combination

3rd Language/BI/Music/AEP/D&T may be offered as the 9th Subject (VS3C, VS3D, VS3E and VS3F), subject to approval by the Principal and Vice Principal.

All students who wish to offer the eight subject triple science combination (VS2A and VS2B) should meet the following four criteria:
a) greater than or equal to 67% for Total Overall Average
b) greater than or equal to 67% for the average of the following:
English (Overall), Maths (Overall), Science (Overall) AND one best Humanities (Overall)
c) Maths and Science average greater than or equal to 70%
d ) be in the top 150 of the cohort applying for the triple science combination

All students who wish to offer the eight subject double humanities combination should meet the following three criteria:
a) greater than or equal to 67% for Total Overall Average
b) greater than or equal to 67% for the average of the following:
English (Overall), AND all three Humanities (Overall)
c) be in the top 30 of the cohort applying for the double humanities combination (Combined Humanities with Pure Geography/History/Literature)

All students who wish to offer the other eight subject combinations (double science, Combined Humanities with 3rd Language/BI/Music/AEP/D&T) should meet the following three criteria:
a) greater than or equal to 65% for Total Overall Average
b) greater than or equal to 65% for the average of the following:
English (Overall), Maths (Overall), Science (Overall) AND one best Humanities (Overall)
c) be in the top 38 of the cohort applying for these combinations.

Students who do not meet the above criteria would be offered the 7-subject combination if they meet the MOE promotion criteria.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:18 pm
by YLH88
Hi happymum8,

Thank you for the info!

In sec 1, what are the 7 or 8 subjects they have to take ?
1) english
2) chinese
3) maths
4) science (do they break down into biology, physics, chemistry or just simply 1 subject on science ?)
5) literature
6) social studies
7) geography
8 )history
9) ??

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:38 pm
by twilight
There's no social studies for lower sec in my school. There's still art, D&T, music, home econs for my school. Science is just general science.