How to gauge potential tscore from prelim

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How to gauge potential tscore from prelim

Postby leow » Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:28 pm

How do we estimate my child T score from school Prelim? If this is guessing game how do we know what we know which secondary he can go? We may b unrealistic and aiming for out of reach school. This a real dilemma for me. Any tips

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Re: How to gauge potential tscore from prelim

Postby verykiasu2010 » Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:31 pm

leow wrote:How do we estimate my child T score from school Prelim? If this is guessing game how do we know what we know which secondary he can go? We may b unrealistic and aiming for out of reach school. This a real dilemma for me. Any tips


when you received the PSLE t-score, you will know which school to choose realistically

the guide book on sec sch selection issued by MOE shows you the past years' cut off point of each school
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Re: How to gauge potential tscore from prelim

Postby merlionkid » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:45 pm

leow wrote:How do we estimate my child T score from school Prelim? If this is guessing game how do we know what we know which secondary he can go? We may b unrealistic and aiming for out of reach school. This a real dilemma for me. Any tips


It is not practical to use school prelim as gauge to PSLE T-score.
The difficulty level of paper set in the prelim paper is subjective to the school's staff assessment.
Furthermore, the standards of the students in the school's cohort is not representative of the nation's P6 students.

Meanwhile, wait for the PSLE result release.

Good luck.

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Re: How to gauge potential tscore from prelim

Postby ppnqq » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:54 pm

leow wrote:How do we estimate my child T score from school Prelim? If this is guessing game how do we know what we know which secondary he can go? We may b unrealistic and aiming for out of reach school. This a real dilemma for me. Any tips


What I can advise is, base on his usual CA, SA and prelim results, you will be able to tell if your child belongs to the high achiever, average or below average. So what you can do is, try to select a few schools which your child prefers but the COP matches the standard of your child's. E.g. if your child average, you may like to categorize the selection of school into 3 groups. 1, schools for the better express score, 2, schools for the lower express score and schools for normal academic.

Why do I include NA too because sometimes an average child's score may be between express and na but unless you are very sure yours would definitely be express only, then you just have to select schools which are for the lower and higher express score. JMHO.

HTH.

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Re: How to gauge potential tscore from prelim

Postby Pen88n » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:02 pm

If you are unsure of your kid's score and would like to prepare early, you can do a tabulation of the T-Score range and your preferred choice:
T-Score Top Range Sch Middle Range Sch Lower Range Sch
250-255 COP 254-256 COP 250-253 COP 247-249
245-250 COP 249-251 COP 245-248 COP 242-244

By doing this way, you have the list of sch for each mark range and will be prepared by the time PSLE results are out. You can also spend time assessing these sch.

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Re: How to gauge potential tscore from prelim

Postby leow » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:42 pm

Thanks. I even tried to estimate the T-score based on the school's average vs psle average vs my son's average. It gives me a scare of my life when I used certain assumptions. Hence, as suggested I'd just have to do my homework to cluster the schools into various categories and attend open house of as many as possible of various range then see what the outome of the PSLE results to prepare for the selection. Looks like there is no easy way out.

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Re: How to gauge potential tscore from prelim

Postby skss » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:47 pm

leow wrote:How do we estimate my child T score from school Prelim? If this is guessing game how do we know what we know which secondary he can go? We may b unrealistic and aiming for out of reach school. This a real dilemma for me. Any tips


was told by my colleague with 2 children who had been through psle stage that the following formula is quite reliable (it will be somewhere along the marks +/- 5marks) :-
(Total prelim scores * 0.75) + 16

But still not all primary schools set difficult papers for prelim.
I am still waiting for my son's PSLE results to assess whether his formula is reliable or not...
:wink:

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Re: How to gauge potential tscore from prelim

Postby jtoh » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:56 pm

skss wrote:
leow wrote:How do we estimate my child T score from school Prelim? If this is guessing game how do we know what we know which secondary he can go? We may b unrealistic and aiming for out of reach school. This a real dilemma for me. Any tips


was told by my colleague with 2 children who had been through psle stage that the following formula is quite reliable (it will be somewhere along the marks +/- 5marks) :-
(Total prelim scores * 0.75) + 16

But still not all primary schools set difficult papers for prelim.
I am still waiting for my son's PSLE results to assess whether his formula is reliable or not...
:wink:


I think it depends on the difficulty of the prelim papers. Some schools set notoriously tough prelim papers and the kids' PSLE scores can be 20-30 higher than their prelim T-score.

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Re: How to gauge potential tscore from prelim

Postby verykiasu2010 » Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:08 pm

jtoh wrote:
skss wrote:
leow wrote:How do we estimate my child T score from school Prelim? If this is guessing game how do we know what we know which secondary he can go? We may b unrealistic and aiming for out of reach school. This a real dilemma for me. Any tips


was told by my colleague with 2 children who had been through psle stage that the following formula is quite reliable (it will be somewhere along the marks +/- 5marks) :-
(Total prelim scores * 0.75) + 16

But still not all primary schools set difficult papers for prelim.
I am still waiting for my son's PSLE results to assess whether his formula is reliable or not...
:wink:


I think it depends on the difficulty of the prelim papers. Some schools set notoriously tough prelim papers and the kids' PSLE scores can be 20-30 higher than their prelim T-score.


was told by NYPS briefing that the range of increase from prelim to PSLE t-score could be between 10 - 60, as some kids idle for 6 years then wake up before actual psle, while some were consistently chugging away
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Re: How to gauge potential tscore from prelim

Postby HeSheMe » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:07 am

From what I have experienced, about 80% of all the primary schools in Singapore have their prelims harder and more difficult than the PSLE. Yep, and this is of course to prepare them for PSLE so that it seems that PSLE is much easier for them. :boogie:

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