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Will it be easier to appeal to IP schools this year?

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:26 pm
by anxious father
Will it be easier and straight forward to appeal to IP schools this year?

Since applicants do not need to compete with DSAers who have made high T-score and want to transfer to a better IP school?

Could anybody share your experience from last year?

Please, there is no offence to the DSAers who have made high T-scores and want to transfer to a better IP school.

Re: Will it be easier to appeal to IP schools this year?

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:21 pm
by krz
anxious father wrote:Will it be easier and straight forward to appeal to IP schools this year?

Since applicants do not need to compete with DSAers who have made high T-score and want to transfer to a better IP school?

Could anybody share your experience from last year?

Please, there is no offence to the DSAers who have made high T-scores and want to transfer to a better IP school.
don understd ... if u r offered a CO via dsa, and accepted it, u cant transfer even with high t-score

Re: Will it be easier to appeal to IP schools this year?

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:37 pm
by Gabby
Cant transfer with DSA.

Re: Will it be easier to appeal to IP schools this year?

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:38 pm
by throughout
that's cruel....

Re: Will it be easier to appeal to IP schools this year?

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:40 pm
by Dreamgear
anxious father wrote:Will it be easier and straight forward to appeal to IP schools this year?

Since applicants do not need to compete with DSAers who have made high T-score and want to transfer to a better IP school?

Could anybody share your experience from last year?

Please, there is no offence to the DSAers who have made high T-scores and want to transfer to a better IP school.
The flip side is there will be less movement out as well

Re: Will it be easier to appeal to IP schools this year?

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:43 pm
by GLORYmum
Gabby wrote:Cant transfer with DSA.


R u sure ??

Re: Will it be easier to appeal to IP schools this year?

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:49 pm
by Snow Crystal
anxious father wrote:Will it be easier and straight forward to appeal to IP schools this year?

Since applicants do not need to compete with DSAers who have made high T-score and want to transfer to a better IP school?

Could anybody share your experience from last year?

Please, there is no offence to the DSAers who have made high T-scores and want to transfer to a better IP school.
If I am not wrong, your ques is about appealing after S1 for a kid who didn't meet the S1 COP. Eg a 255 kid appealing to a Sch with S1 COP 257.

I think it depends on where the rejected DSA CO places go to. I think most have WL lists so the rejected CO places will be filled up, no balance for S1 appeal. For those with no WL (any school?), then the places not taken up by DSA CO will either be thrown to S1 central posting exercise or withheld for S1 appeal cases....we don't know which is the practice now but yes that affects the S1 appeal success rate. But with the new ruling, I would assume most if not all DSA schools have standby proper WL listings to fill up the rejected DSA CO cases. If so, not many S1 appeal cases will be entertained.

I don't think can compare with last year becos the no transfer ruling affected some IPs' procedures and they had to release more spaces to S1 appeal :wink:

Just my views...

Re: Will it be easier to appeal to IP schools this year?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:15 am
by Hollyking
GLORYmum wrote:
Gabby wrote:Cant transfer with DSA.


R u sure ??
No transfer allowed for DSA students. This matter was debated hotly in tis forum last year! Once you are in the school via DSA, you honor your commitment with integrity so to speak.

Re: Will it be easier to appeal to IP schools this year?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:58 am
by Gabby
The school gave the DSA applicants priority when they applied. Sone pupils have several successful applications. They should already deliberate and chose the school of choice.
Pupils should Hp our their commitment, rather than hold on to a good apple and say they will throw the apple away when they find a bigger one.
If the pupils want to change school, I think it goes through the normal route. Do very well, and transfer somewhere in the duration of your sec school course. They can't exercise theiroptions at this juncture of the sec 1 posting exercise.

Re: Will it be easier to appeal to IP schools this year?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:40 am
by anxious father
Snow Crystal wrote:
anxious father wrote:Will it be easier and straight forward to appeal to IP schools this year?

Since applicants do not need to compete with DSAers who have made high T-score and want to transfer to a better IP school?

Could anybody share your experience from last year?

Please, there is no offence to the DSAers who have made high T-scores and want to transfer to a better IP school.
If I am not wrong, your ques is about appealing after S1 for a kid who didn't meet the S1 COP. Eg a 255 kid appealing to a Sch with S1 COP 257.

I think it depends on where the rejected DSA CO places go to. I think most have WL lists so the rejected CO places will be filled up, no balance for S1 appeal. For those with no WL (any school?), then the places not taken up by DSA CO will either be thrown to S1 central posting exercise or withheld for S1 appeal cases....we don't know which is the practice now but yes that affects the S1 appeal success rate. But with the new ruling, I would assume most if not all DSA schools have standby proper WL listings to fill up the rejected DSA CO cases. If so, not many S1 appeal cases will be entertained.

I don't think can compare with last year becos the no transfer ruling affected some IPs' procedures and they had to release more spaces to S1 appeal :wink:

Just my views...
Great! you are the first one who answered my question.

WLs (Waiting lists) are always there after DSA.

Let me give an example: my friend's son achieved 260+2 in 2010/2011 cohort. He got CO from NJC through DSA, but he successfully appealed to HCI after S1 posting. The COP of HCI in 2010/2011 cohort was only 257 including HMTL.

I think the most of the appeal applicants to HCI, including those on WL, could not compete with my friend's son, if taken by merit.

Under MOE's new regulation, this phenomenon should not happen again.

My conclusion is: Under MOE new regulattion, appeal will be less competive, more straightforward and predictable if your PLSE score is 1-2 marks close to the COP of the school.

The condition is: Merit goes by first.