Historical COP for Sec 1 Posting Exercise

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Re: Historical COP for Sec 1 Posting Exercise

Post by laughingcat » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:12 pm

mommyNg wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:54 pm
floppy wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:41 pm

Refer to MOE microsite.

One word is missing from the literature.
Make a guess?

Stress.
I don't think MOE design the the new system to reduce stress. It's mostly parents' wishful thinking.
Ah, great point. It says “The changes are part of a larger shift to better nurture well-rounded individuals.” There you go, the emphasis is well-rounded individuals, so you will need to be good in all 4 subjects (“well-rounded”) to do well in PSLE....
It is not unfair to say that our new system is constipated, to me I feel is getting more and more constipated, to the extent I am feeling :imconstipated: . :rotflmao: Cham liao....my DC2 is more of a linguistic person, the M and S can toss into the air liao. :lightrod:

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Re: Historical COP for Sec 1 Posting Exercise

Post by iRabbit » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:27 pm

Does anyone know how does the HCL bonus pt work under the new scheme of things (AL)?

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Re: Historical COP for Sec 1 Posting Exercise

Post by laughingcat » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:06 pm

the HCL still remains the same as the current system.....Distinction, Merit and Pass. HCL still a bonus entry to SAP school.

https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle/ ... cases.html

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Re: Historical COP for Sec 1 Posting Exercise

Post by mommyNg » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:17 pm

laughingcat wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:06 pm
the HCL still remains the same as the current system.....Distinction, Merit and Pass. HCL still a bonus entry to SAP school.

https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle/ ... cases.html
But there will no longer be extra bonus points as per the current t-score system .... HCL will only be advantageous when it comes to the same AL score.

"Higher Chinese Language (HCL) students will continue to receive a posting advantage for admission to SAP schools

For example, if 2 students have a PSLE Score of 8, the student who has a Distinction in HCL will be allocated a place in a SAP school ahead of a student who has a Merit in HCL.

This posting advantage for admission to SAP schools applies before the tie-breakers for S1 Posting."
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Re: Historical COP for Sec 1 Posting Exercise

Post by floppy » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:18 pm

laughingcat wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:06 pm
the HCL still remains the same as the current system.....Distinction, Merit and Pass. HCL still a bonus entry to SAP school.

https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle/ ... cases.html
Bonus only if there is a tie in score.
A 7 point non-HCL score will still trump a 8 point HCL-distinction score (unlike before where there is real points being added).


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Re: Historical COP for Sec 1 Posting Exercise

Post by mommyNg » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:29 pm

That means a 7-pointer with Distinction in HCL in the new AL system would not be able to "jump" to the pool of 4-5 pointers or even 6-pointers (e.g., HCI/NYGH), and have priority only among the pool of 7-pointers (e.g., DHS/SNG), unlike the current t-score system.

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Re: Historical COP for Sec 1 Posting Exercise

Post by phtthp » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:36 pm

mommyNg wrote:

But there will no longer be extra bonus points as per the current t-score system .... HCL will only be advantageous when it comes to the same AL score.

"Higher Chinese Language (HCL) students will continue to receive a posting advantage for admission to SAP schools

For example, if 2 students have a PSLE Score of 8, the student who has a Distinction in HCL will be allocated a place in a SAP school ahead of a student who has a Merit in HCL.

This posting advantage for admission to SAP schools applies before the tie-breakers for S1 Posting."
But, the Bonus (+1/2/3) points, doesn't apply to all.

You may be graded Distinction / Merit / Pass on your PSLE certificate, but only pupils in the Top 30% of the entire PSLE cohort who taken HCL will be awarded Bonus points.


To take HCL, at Secondary school :-

• Top 10% of PSLE cohort

• Top 11% - 30% of PSLE cohort with A* in Normal Chinese, or minimum scored a Merit in HCL


Once you are outside Top 30 % entire PSLE cohort, cannot apply your HCL score anymore, even if you score say, +2 for HCL, and have the intention to apply to a SAP school.

Question is :
what then is the new AL Cut-off point, to be within Top 30 % of entire PSLE cohort ?
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Re: Historical COP for Sec 1 Posting Exercise

Post by lee_yl » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:42 pm

Imagine the COP of Hwa Chong to be 6 AL points.

So those who took HCL and scored Distinctions, would have priority to be admitted first. Whatever is left would then be passed down to those with Merit and lastly Pass. Those without HCL will have no priority.

In the event only 1 vacancy is left for 6 pointers to ballot, all the 6 pointers with Dist in HCL will be considered first, the rest of the 6 pointers no need to ballot liao.

In order to get AL1 (90 above) for CL, I would think having extra exposure to HCL will help. :evil: So learning HCL is not just for SAP school application only.

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Re: Historical COP for Sec 1 Posting Exercise

Post by laughingcat » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:48 pm

yes...my bad for not being clear. HCL students will continue to receive a posting advantage for admission to SAP schools....and that is when there is a tie-breakers for S1 Posting.,

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Re: Historical COP for Sec 1 Posting Exercise

Post by phtthp » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:51 pm

agree, lee_yl.

You have analyzed Hwa Chong case, well. Those who never take HCL and want to apply SAP schools, will be at a disadvantage. Zero chance to ballot, because those who scored +3 +2, +1 in their HCL, they will be given Higher priority to ballot.

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