IMPORTANT LEGAL NOTIFICATION FOR ALL HIRING PART-TIME MAIDS/

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Re: All About Part-Time Maids

Postby importantmum2012 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:22 am

Here's a VERY IMPORTANT ADVICE TO ALL.

If you employ a foreign "part-time" maid, domestic helper, they must either be

- Singaporeans /w compulsory CPF contributions (so that they can get government workfare bonus)

- Singapore PRs
OR
Cleaners WITH PROPER WORK PERMITS DIRECTLY UNDER THE PAYROLL of the cleaning company.
If they do not get their CPF, they can go to CPF Board to sue you and you will be liable for criminal charge. Even if they ‘agree’ to take cash in private, if things go sour between you and them, they may ‘still decide’ to go to CPF Board to sue you and CPF will still go after you.

Any filipino / Indonesian/ or other country maids working OUTSIDE their original employer's houses ARE DEEM TO BE CONDUCTING IN ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES, can be ARRESTED and CHARGED in SINGAPORE COURT and DEPORTED BACK TO THEIR HOME COUNTRY.

The employment agencies supplying such 'part-time maids' are liable of up to S$80,000 fine by MOM and the house owner employing the part-time services of the filipino / Indonesian / or other country 'part-time' maids is also liable to be fined up to S$15,000 by MOM. Pleading 'ignorance' is not an excuse of violating Singapore Law.

MOM Officers are stepping up their inspections from 500 to 5,000 per year.

You have been warned. It doesn't pay to pay less for illegal maids.
Look for cleaning companies who only supply Singaporean or PR helpers, OR foreign helpers with PROPER WORK PERMITS. These come at a premium cost, but at least you can be assured you are acting in accordance with Singapore Law and you can sleep in peace. More and more have been caught and charged.

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Re: IMPORTANT LEGAL NOTIFICATION FOR ALL HIRING PART-TIME MA

Postby POA Teacher » Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:04 am

:censored: Why you post so many times?
:stompfeet: :rant: :mad:

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Re: IMPORTANT LEGAL NOTIFICATION FOR ALL HIRING PART-TIME MA

Postby importantmum2012 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:12 am

Sorry,

I was responding to each Subject post to warn them of very real and potential legal problems with MOM and CPF.

Best regards.

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Re: IMPORTANT LEGAL NOTIFICATION FOR ALL HIRING PART-TIME MA

Postby POA Teacher » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:14 am

What crap!
No-one else posted. How could you be responding.
You are not doing this out of concern for others. You must be an agent, supplying part-time maids.

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Re: IMPORTANT LEGAL NOTIFICATION FOR ALL HIRING PART-TIME MA

Postby importantmum2012 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:49 pm

POA Teacher wrote:What crap!
No-one else posted. How could you be responding.
You are not doing this out of concern for others. You must be an agent, supplying part-time maids.


There is no such thing as "part-time" maids in Singapore.

Either you hire a "full-time" maid, or you don't hire at all.

If you are hiring a so called "part-time maid" without proper work permit, you are in serious violation of the law.

Re-read my post on the legal notes.

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Re: IMPORTANT LEGAL NOTIFICATION FOR ALL HIRING PART-TIME MA

Postby POA Teacher » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:44 pm

importantmum2012 wrote:
POA Teacher wrote:What crap!
No-one else posted. How could you be responding.
You are not doing this out of concern for others. You must be an agent, supplying part-time maids.


There is no such thing as "part-time" maids in Singapore.

Either you hire a "full-time" maid, or you don't hire at all.

If you are hiring a so called "part-time maid" without proper work permit, you are in serious violation of the law.

Re-read my post on the legal notes.

There are lots of part-time maids in Singapore, perfectly legal to hire them.
And many agencies do supply them

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Re: IMPORTANT LEGAL NOTIFICATION FOR ALL HIRING PART-TIME MA

Postby slmkhoo » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:37 am

POA Teacher wrote:
importantmum2012 wrote:
POA Teacher wrote:What crap!
No-one else posted. How could you be responding.
You are not doing this out of concern for others. You must be an agent, supplying part-time maids.


There is no such thing as "part-time" maids in Singapore.

Either you hire a "full-time" maid, or you don't hire at all.

If you are hiring a so called "part-time maid" without proper work permit, you are in serious violation of the law.

Re-read my post on the legal notes.

There are lots of part-time maids in Singapore, perfectly legal to hire them.
And many agencies do supply them

Perhaps there is misunderstanding here? The first poster is referring to FOREIGN part-time maids, while POA is probably referring to Singaporeans/PRs who work as part-time maids?

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Re: IMPORTANT LEGAL NOTIFICATION FOR ALL HIRING PART-TIME MA

Postby importantmum2012 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:23 pm

There is no such thing as "part-time" maids in Singapore.

Either you hire a "full-time" maid, or you don't hire at all.

If you are hiring a so called "part-time maid" without proper work permit, you are in serious violation of the law.

Re-read my post on the legal notes.[/quote]
There are lots of part-time maids in Singapore, perfectly legal to hire them.
And many agencies do supply them[/quote]
Perhaps there is misunderstanding here? The first poster is referring to FOREIGN part-time maids, while POA is probably referring to Singaporeans/PRs who work as part-time maids?[/quote]


There is also no such thing as "foreign" "part-time" maids. The maids are bound to work under their employer and not allowed to work 'part-time' for other households. It is a serious offence. If caught, the maid will be charged in court and deported back to their home country. All parties will be fined, be it agency or house owner.

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Re: IMPORTANT LEGAL NOTIFICATION FOR ALL HIRING PART-TIME MA

Postby POA Teacher » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:31 pm

LOL! If you say so, it must be so. Even though so many registered agents are doing so openly.
Anyways, you clearly have an ulterior motive in making all those multiple posts.
Only conclusion I can draw is that you are trying to circumvent the rules of the BB.
I won't bother to reply to your posts anymore. Replying to your post may only result in more viewings of this thread. Not gonna fall into that trap.

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Re: IMPORTANT LEGAL NOTIFICATION FOR ALL HIRING PART-TIME MA

Postby importantmum2012 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:14 pm

POA Teacher wrote:LOL! If you say so, it must be so. Even though so many registered agents are doing so openly.
Anyways, you clearly have an ulterior motive in making all those multiple posts.
Only conclusion I can draw is that you are trying to circumvent the rules of the BB.
I won't bother to reply to your posts anymore. Replying to your post may only result in more viewings of this thread. Not gonna fall into that trap.


The motive for posting is to warn users about the legal dangers and pitfalls of employing 'foreign' part-time maids. We do not want honest mothers to be shocked by visits from MOM senior investigators or CPF officers and claim that they are ignorant about Singapore Laws. It is the duty of every Singaporean citizen and PR to get acquainted with Singapore Laws since they are living in Singapore. Claiming 'ignorance' simply does not sit well with MOM and CPF. You are still liable to pay heavy penalties. It's just like jaywalking. You can tell a Singapore Police Officer that you do not know that you can't jaywalk across the particular road and he will fine you anyway.

It is not wrong to warn users. It is however, wrong to promote to users the idea that employing 'foreign part-time maids' is legitimate when the consequences of doing so are VERY SERIOUS. If a mom gets hit by MOM, that's it for her.

Many agencies opening doing so DO NOT mean it is legal. MOM and CPF have started cracking down on the errant agencies and it is just a matter of time for them to get caught pants down. Pls do a search for errant employers and house owners getting caught with heavy penalties. Eg. A filipino agency owner was fined S$50,000 after she was caught in the monkey business. It's not just the penalties that are daunting. The many 'interview' trips reqested by MOM Senior Investigators to go to MOM HQ and CPF HQ are enough to kill most moms. MOM has the power to collect all emails, smses etc. for prosecuting evidence, by the way.

We hope we have made our position sufficiently clear.

Best regards.

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