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Drop one year in school - 2005 instead 2004 - your views

Postby SingDadNZ » Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:56 pm

Hi All,

My boy was born in 2004 to Singaporeans parents in Wellington NZ. We plan to come back to Singapore in a couple of year’s time as we both have aging parents. My boy was born at the bottom of year 2004 as such I was wondering if I could start his school in Singapore with the class of 2005 instead of the class of 2004. That way he could be ahead of his class in terms of maturity and build (body size) and hopefully it will help him to ease into the Singapore school environment.

Right now school is a breeze as children start school in NZ at 5 years old and it runs from 9 am to 3pm. All academics, sports and music are done and managed within that time and after school, children just chill and pursue what interest them.

I know that had to change when we hit Singapore hence on why we thought hope to start him with the class of 2005.

Your views and opinion on this matter will be greatly appreciated. :cry: :?:

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Re: Drop one year in school - 2005 instead 2004 - your views

Postby PhoBIA » Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:50 am

SingDadNZ wrote:Hi All,

My boy was born in 2004 to Singaporeans parents in Wellington NZ. We plan to come back to Singapore in a couple of year’s time as we both have aging parents. My boy was born at the bottom of year 2004 as such I was wondering if I could start his school in Singapore with the class of 2005 instead of the class of 2004. That way he could be ahead of his class in terms of maturity and build (body size) and hopefully it will help him to ease into the Singapore school environment.

Right now school is a breeze as children start school in NZ at 5 years old and it runs from 9 am to 3pm. All academics, sports and music are done and managed within that time and after school, children just chill and pursue what interest them.

I know that had to change when we hit Singapore hence on why we thought hope to start him with the class of 2005.

Your views and opinion on this matter will be greatly appreciated. :cry: :?:


It may be better to write to moe and enquire. Or maybe write to the Sch that you intend to enrol when your return.

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Re: Drop one year in school - 2005 instead 2004 - your views

Postby SingDadNZ » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:36 pm

Kelsy wrote:
SingDadNZ wrote:Hi All,

My boy was born in 2004 to Singaporeans parents in Wellington NZ. We plan to come back to Singapore in a couple of year’s time as we both have aging parents. My boy was born at the bottom of year 2004 as such I was wondering if I could start his school in Singapore with the class of 2005 instead of the class of 2004. That way he could be ahead of his class in terms of maturity and build (body size) and hopefully it will help him to ease into the Singapore school environment.

Right now school is a breeze as children start school in NZ at 5 years old and it runs from 9 am to 3pm. All academics, sports and music are done and managed within that time and after school, children just chill and pursue what interest them.

I know that had to change when we hit Singapore hence on why we thought hope to start him with the class of 2005.

Your views and opinion on this matter will be greatly appreciated. :cry: :?:


[color=#0080BF]It may be better to write to moe and enquire. Or maybe write to the Sch that you intend to enrol when your return.

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Thank you for the advice. I am aware of the many discussions on the forum pertaining to MOE position on children moving up a class beyond their age but I did not think it would be a problem if a child drops a class. There is a definite difference in maturity, physical size including intellectual capacity to grasp new knowledge between a child born on the first week of January and a child born on the last week of December and yet both the children are expected to run on the same speed treadmill on a fixed given result.

I was born on December 31 at 11.45 pm and through out my primary school days, I was always on the back foot and constantly needed to play catch-up with the older children and put up with many bullies.

I am very keen to hear from parents on some of their children’s experience, either as an older or as a younger kid in class.

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Re: Drop one year in school - 2005 instead 2004 - your views

Postby slmkhoo » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:47 pm

I am quite sure there shouldn't be a problem on the MOE side with your son dropping one year back since he is returning from overseas. You should still check with MOE to confirm this though. I think there is a general rule that a child should not be more than 2 years older than his classmates.

I don't have any personal experience to share but I think that as long as your child is not significantly more mature than his classmates (and you obviously don't think that is going to be the case), then there shouldn't be a problem.

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Re: Drop one year in school - 2005 instead 2004 - your views

Postby sleepy » Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:05 pm

As far as I know, kids aren't allowed to delay school year unless parents can produce diagnosis by specialists/doctors regarding learning disablities or some other conditions. Date of birth alone is usually not sufficient reason for delaying school year.

Only kids born on 1 January 2005 can choose which year to start school - ie. either join 2004 cohort or 2005 cohort.

However, I'm not sure if there are special concessions for returning Singaporean. Best is to email moe to clarify.

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Re: Drop one year in school - 2005 instead 2004 - your views

Postby jtoh » Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:47 pm

Taken from MOE site: http://moe.gov.sg/education/admissions/ ... priate-age

What option is there if Returning Singaporeans are unable to keep up with the schools’ academic requirements?

Primary schools must admit Returning Singaporean children to their age-appropriate levels. This is because if the children had stayed in Singapore, they would have progressed to the same levels as their peers residing in Singapore. MOE’s policy intent is to ensure that Returning Singaporeans are not worse off than their peers in Singapore. However, primary schools may, in consultation with parents, place the children into a lower more suitable level

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Re: Drop one year in school - 2005 instead 2004 - your views

Postby metz » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:17 pm

Hi,

This is what I undertood from parents who have returned to Singapore -

Upon accepted by the school, a lower primary child will be required to take an assessment (English, Maths and Chinese) to evaluate his level. If the school finds his results satisfactory, he will be placed in a class of his age. If not, the school will suggest placing the child at a lower level.

As for your worries, you can always raise them to the school principal and seek his/her advice.
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Re: Drop one year in school - 2005 instead 2004 - your views

Postby CayennePepper » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:31 pm

sleepy wrote:Only kids born on 1 January 2005 can choose which year to start school - ie. either join 2004 cohort or 2005 cohort.


Actually, those born on 1 Jan are supposed to register for P1 together with those born in the previous year. So effectively the child should be the youngest in that P1 cohort. It's not an option, per se, for parents to choose which year to attend.
One of my kids was born on 1 Jan so I checked on this years ago.

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Re: Drop one year in school - 2005 instead 2004 - your views

Postby sleepy » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:22 am

CayennePepper wrote:
sleepy wrote:Only kids born on 1 January 2005 can choose which year to start school - ie. either join 2004 cohort or 2005 cohort.


Actually, those born on 1 Jan are supposed to register for P1 together with those born in the previous year. So effectively the child should be the youngest in that P1 cohort. It's not an option, per se, for parents to choose which year to attend.
One of my kids was born on 1 Jan so I checked on this years ago.


My dd's enrichment teacher mentioned she opted to let her dd go p1 with kids on same year. Her dd was born on 1 January. Not hearsay through 2nd or 3rd hand sources since I heard from her directly.

Hmm...so it's not an option? Wonder how she convinced MOE then :evil:

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Re: Drop one year in school - 2005 instead 2004 - your views

Postby yvetan2020 » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:43 am

Below are the answers to your quiry.

Do Returning Singaporeans have to sit for school-based entrance tests for admission to primary schools?
Previously, Returning Singaporeans seeking admission to primary schools had to sit for school-based entrance tests. However, under the current enhanced admission framework, Returning Singaporeans no longer have to sit for entrance tests for admission to primary schools. Nevertheless, primary schools may conduct test(s), after admission, to determine Returning Singaporeans’ mastery of content and language. This is to provide information on the children’s current attainment level, so that they receive the appropriate help to settle back into local schools. The schools may, based on such tests and in consultation with parents, place the children into a lower more suitable level.


What option is there if Returning Singaporeans are unable to keep up with the schools’ academic requirements?
Primary schools must admit Returning Singaporean children to their age-appropriate levels. This is because if the children had stayed in Singapore, they would have progressed to the same levels as their peers residing in Singapore. MOE’s policy intent is to ensure that Returning Singaporeans are not worse off than their peers in Singapore. However, primary schools may, in consultation with parents, place the children into a lower more suitable level

Can Returning Singaporeans be exempted from examinations?
As Returning Singaporeans rejoin Singapore schools at different times of the school year, parents may be concerned about the performance of their children in school examinations. In this regard, the Principals have the discretion to decide whether the pupils should be exempted from examinations and on their promotion to the next level on a case-by-case basis.

Can understand your worries, hope that the above answers gives you a guide to the schooling system in Singapore. There's always room for discussion but the main issue is whether you are able to get a place in the school near where you are staying.

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