All About Home Addresses

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Would you use an address that you do not stay in, just to get priority in P1 registration?

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All About Home Addresses

Postby red_ryder » Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:17 pm

I'm currently staying in a 3rm flat, thinking of upgrading to a 5rm. But next year my daughter in registering for P1, and I want to try for Phase 2C in a good school near my current place first.

If I'm lucky enough to get in, must I continue staying in my current place? In other words, is it ok if address at balloting stage is within 1km, but upon entering P1 we have moved to a larger place that is further away?

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Re: After balloting in phase 2C(1km), can we move house?

Postby ChiefKiasu » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:52 pm

red_ryder wrote:I'm currently staying in a 3rm flat, thinking of upgrading to a 5rm. But next year my daughter in registering for P1, and I want to try for Phase 2C in a good school near my current place first.

If I'm lucky enough to get in, must I continue staying in my current place? In other words, is it ok if address at balloting stage is within 1km, but upon entering P1 we have moved to a larger place that is further away?


That's a good question. The answer is YES, especially if you have been staying in that property for some time.

The only MOE regulations I am aware of is if you register your child using the address of a property that is being built => you are required to move in before the child turns Primary 3.

The regulations are against people buying property near schools and selling them away after the P1 registration. In fact, some years back, some guy went to jail because of that, and his poor girl had to withdraw from her school. I think it was RGPS or something like that. So all parents please note and don't play play.

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Postby vicky » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:52 am

Another case:

http://www.straitstimes.com/Free/Story/STIStory_181867.html

Lawyer jailed 11 months for forgery and lies

He altered stamp duty payable by client and lied about address to get his child into top school

HE WILL spend the next 11 months in jail but the immediate future of his 10-year-old daughter is less certain.
Lawyer Tan Sok Ling, 40, pleaded guilty last week to lying about his residential address in order to secure his daughter a place at a reputable school in Bukit Timah. He also admitted to altering the stamp duty payable for a property transaction from $8,100 to $13,500.

Yesterday he was sentenced to nine months' jail for forgery and two months for giving false information. Two other forgery charges and another of giving false information were considered.

As for his daughter's fate in the school, the Ministry of Education (MOE) said it will consider the court's ruling in deciding the course of action for the child.

Tan, who was called to the Bar in 1993, is currently under a 12-month suspension for breaching the Solicitors Accounts Rules between 2002 and 2003.

The owner of the now-defunct firm of Tan S.L. & Partners was representing Mr Kwang Siang Jin, 46, a buyer of a Thomson Park house, when he forged the stamp duty certificate in March last year.

Mr Kwang paid $13,500 for stamp duties for the purchase of the property, not knowing that the actual figure was only $8,100.

When he found out three months later, he demanded a refund and Tan complied.

Earlier in 2003, Tan's family was living in Bedok when he decided to rent a place within the 1km radius of the Bukit Timah school in order to enrol his daughter there.

He managed to find a unit at Maplewoods Condominium and paid a $1,600 monthly rent for 41/2 months from April 2003. He told the property agent that he was not going to live there but wanted to use the address.

After signing the licence agreement, he went to the Siglap Neighbourhood Police Post on July 6 that year to change his address to the Bukit Timah one when he knew that it was false.

His daughter, now 10, was admitted to the school. But he was found out after an MOE official lodged a police report on Dec 19 that year stating that two applicants at the 2003 Primary 1 registration exercise had used the same address.

Mr Peter Cuthbert Low of law firm Colin Ng & Partners said his client cooperated fully with the police, made restitution even before he was charged, and was genuinely remorseful.

Citing aggravating factors in the case, District Judge Liew Thiam Leng said the offence involved fraud and dishonesty as well as premeditation. Tan had abused his position of trust as a lawyer and his conduct undermined public confidence in the legal profession.

Tan could have been jailed for up to seven years for forgery. For giving false information to a public servant, the maximum penalty is six months' jail or $1,000 fine or both.

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Postby ChiefKiasu » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:10 am

vicky wrote:Another case:

http://www.straitstimes.com/Free/Story/STIStory_181867.html

Lawyer jailed 11 months for forgery and lies

He altered stamp duty payable by client and lied about address to get his child into top school ...


Hi Vicky, thanks for putting up the article! This sounds suspiciously like the same case I was referring to. The incident happened in 2003.

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Minimum staying period

Postby andrew » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:46 am

[Moderator's Note: Topics merged.]

Hi All,

Just a quick question, is there a minimum staying period in a particular address to be considered when determining school distance to that address?

I just worried that the recently (2-3 months ago) T.O.Ped, massive apartment blocks nearby our building may add significant numbers of qualifying children for balloting within 1KM distance.

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Re: Minimum staying period

Postby learningtobekiasu » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:07 pm

andrew wrote:Hi All,

Just a quick question, is there a minimum staying period in a particular address to be considered when determining school distance to that address?

I just worried that the recently (2-3 months ago) T.O.Ped, massive apartment blocks nearby our building may add significant numbers of qualifying children for balloting within 1KM distance.



if you purchase a home, there are some rules about length of time between TOP and primary 1 start date. if you are renting, there is no published guideline. the schools will register based on the IC address. however, as far as i know, some schools may require proof or tenancy (in addition to the IC, if the change of address was recent) and some schools require signing of a letter of undertaking not to move out of the 2km range during the entire primary school period.


if someone buys a home or rents a home and moves in, then they are legitimately entitled to send their children to the nearest school, no?

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Postby MMM » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:48 am

Hi,

Following the thread, does anyone has any idea about rental? A friend is thinking of putting her son in SJI is thinking of buying a house near the house and rent out the apartment after that.

Are there any guidelines surrounding that? Is it something do-able?

It is more tedious to change your address on your IC now. The police will require some proof. But such proof are not difficult to obtain eg. credit bills/ utilities bill with your name on the address. On the other hand, if you are renting out the place, it's not appropriate to have your address there as mails may get delayed,etc...

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Postby learningtobekiasu » Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:30 pm

MMM wrote:Hi,

Following the thread, does anyone has any idea about rental? A friend is thinking of putting her son in SJI is thinking of buying a house near the house and rent out the apartment after that.

Are there any guidelines surrounding that? Is it something do-able?

It is more tedious to change your address on your IC now. The police will require some proof. But such proof are not difficult to obtain eg. credit bills/ utilities bill with your name on the address. On the other hand, if you are renting out the place, it's not appropriate to have your address there as mails may get delayed,etc...


not sure what you mean by

"buying a house near the house and rent out the apartment after that."

anyway, with regards to buying a house this is from the moe website

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Q19: I have purchased a yet-to-be completed property and should be moving in after the property is completed, can I make use of the new home address for the purpose of registration?

A19: Yes. The new home address can be used provided that you are able to produce evidence from the relevant authority that you have committed to the purchase of this property. In the case of private property, parents must produce the original copy of the Sales and Purchase Agreement. The date of commitment by the developer in T.O.P (Temporary Occupation Permit) must not be later than 31 Dec 2010.In the case of HDB flat, the document issued by the HDB. Parents must move into the new property within two years of the child’s entry into Primary One otherwise the child will be transferred out of the school.


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what this means is that if you purchase a house near the school you are supposed to move in and not rent it out to someone else.


as for ic address. you have to produce proof of the address for the dept to change it on your ic. if you don't have proof they will mail you a letter at your new address, you are then supposed to bring that letter back to them and use it as proof of your new address and they will change the address on your IC.


be careful how you go - trying to 'trick' the system might back fire and your child will suffer the embarrassment of being transferred out.

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Postby MMM » Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:33 pm

Typo error. They are trying to buy a apartment within 1km of the school. Then rent out the house while they still continue to stay in their current flat. Wonder if there are any issues with this.

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Postby learningtobekiasu » Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:39 pm

MMM wrote:Typo error. They are trying to buy a apartment within 1km of the school. Then rent out the house while they still continue to stay in their current flat. Wonder if there are any issues with this.


read the moe paragraph again. if you buy and use that address for proximity priority, you have to move in within 2 years. Otherwise its contravening the guidelines.

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