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Q&A - P4 Chinese

Postby acforfamily » Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:50 am

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Hi need your help on Chinese.

Can someone tell me how to differentiate between the use of 然后 and 才。
example
1) 我先做完功课,才去看电视。
2)我先做完功课,然后去看电视。
3) 我做完了功课,然后去看电视。

Are they all correct? If not, what should be the correct one?
I just realised that I can't find any thread on Chinese,or maybe I am just blind...

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Postby mrswongtuition » Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:57 pm

I'm not a chinese teacher, neither am I good at chinese (C6 at O levels), but if I recall correctly, it should be:
我做完了功课才去看电视。
我做完了功课。然后我去看电视。

才 is like 'then.
然后 is more like 'and then'.

I need to ask my colleagues on this!
The 2nd sentence above still does not sound correct. :?

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Re: P3 Chinese

Postby MdmKS » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:30 am

acforfamily wrote:Hi need your help on Chinese.

Can someone tell me how to differentiate between the use of 然后 and 才。
example
1) 我先做完功课,才去看电视。
2)我先做完功课,然后去看电视。
3) 我做完了功课,然后去看电视。

Are they all correct? If not, what should be the correct one?
I just realised that I can't find any thread on Chinese,or maybe I am just blind...


Hi Acforfamily, can you share which one is the answer from your child's teacher?

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Postby acforfamily » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:51 am

Hi,
Thanks in advance for attempting this.
The paper came back and I realised that it was different. Sorry, I was so confused.

The question was :
.....................,然后看电视。

What my son wrote was as follows and teacher marked him wrong ( i.e. 0 out of 3 marks)
你要先做功课,然后看电视。

Teacher corrected it to:
他先做功课,然后看电视。

Sample answer given to class was:
我先做完功课,然后看电视。

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Postby Uh-Oh » Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:30 am

acforfamily,
If i were to mark yr child's paper, I would add a "cai2" after the "ran2 hou4".
Sorry, not able to type in Chinese as my hubby hasn't install the Han Shen for me yet :P

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Postby acforfamily » Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:36 pm

Uh-Oh wrote:acforfamily,
If i were to mark yr child's paper, I would add a "cai2" after the "ran2 hou4".
Sorry, not able to type in Chinese as my hubby hasn't install the Han Shen for me yet :P


Thanks, I thought so too but I don't know how to explain the difference to my son.

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Postby Uh-Oh » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:22 pm

acforfamily wrote:
Uh-Oh wrote:acforfamily,
If i were to mark yr child's paper, I would add a "cai2" after the "ran2 hou4".
Sorry, not able to type in Chinese as my hubby hasn't install the Han Shen for me yet :P


Thanks, I thought so too but I don't know how to explain the difference to my son.



U could probably explain in this manner :
"ran hou" can be used when the subject performed more than one action, i.e he does Action, then he does Action B.
Judging fr yr son's answer, it seems that he is writing the scenario of someone giving instructions to another person: the actions hav not really happened already, so he need to add "cai". If the actions already taken place. then just use "ran hou" is acceptable, e.g: ta xian zuo gong ke, ran hou kan dian shi.

Hope that helps.

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Postby acforfamily » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:53 am

Thanks uh-oh.

By the way, there is no need to install Han Shen for you to type Chinese if you have microsoft word.
Just need to change your settings for language under the control panel.

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Postby Full.Cream » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:24 am

me only have mediocre chinese but let me try.

然后 - more for a event after another event, or like what was said earlier, action following another action. A sequence of events.

才- somewhat like 'only when' or 'only then'. A conditional result/happening.

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Postby acforfamily » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:33 am

Full.Cream wrote:me only have mediocre chinese but let me try.

然后 - more for a event after another event, or like what was said earlier, action following another action. A sequence of events.

才- somewhat like 'only when' or 'only then'. A conditional result/happening.


Thanks Full.Cream,

Just wondering, for English, there are books like Casco or Primary English which teaches us grammar etc. Does anyone know whether there is anything similar for Chinese. Books that will explain the kind of question above?

The current textbook only gives the sentences but does not explain the different usage.

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