How exactly is EESIS calculated?

[jpe]

here is my understanding to share:
1. about the total number of pupils is granted for ESSIS
refer to MOE definition http://www.moe.gov.sg/initiatives/edusa ... rds/eesis/
----1.1 The EESIS are awarded to Singaporean students who are in the top one-third of the total number of secondary 1 pupils admitted to all independent schools (IS)1 , based on their PSLE results.
----The independent schools are Anglo-Chinese School (Independent), Hwa Chong Institution, Methodist Girls’ School, Nanyang Girls’ High School, NUS High School, Raffles Girls School, Raffles Institution, School of the Arts, School of Science & Technology, Singapore Chinese Girls’ School, Singapore Sports School and St Joseph’s Institution.
exclude SOTA and Sports school, there are 10 schools. assume each school take 400, so 400 x 10 / 3 = 1333, look at 2013 PSLE 43000+ student, 43000 x 3% = 1291.
so we can say EESIS is top 3%.

2. about the pupils who get EESIS but won't go IP. in another word, ie. is it possible that MOE grant EESIS to pupils more than 3%.
firstly, if MOE gives more, e.g. 5%, to pupils, if just happen that all pupils go IP, how? it will debate with first rule 1/3 of pupils. it just simply create confusion and lost money.
look at MOE site,
------4.4 Students who are subsequently admitted to an IS after the Sec 1 Posting Exercise and have met the eligibility criteria will also be awarded the EESIS.
the statement is how does MOE solve the issue. ie. they give to top 3% first. if not all top3% go IP, they will fill in with others who also go IP but get lower score.

3. about COP for EESIS.
if you are eligible for EESIS, it will be printed in S1 Option Form. thanks to the "wisdom of the masses" or "crowdsourcing", we got many forum to discuss the info. so far, based on many thread from many forums, where pupils posted their score and EESIS eligibility, 258 is lowest we can see. it is not 100% sure, but good enough to use it for consideration. you may search those references.

4. about GEPer, so far the GEPer always top performer, I believe most of them will be in top3%. some of them could be lower but based on MOE
----1.2 The EESIS is also awarded to Primary 6 Gifted Education Programme (GEP) Singaporean students who:
----meet the P6 GEP promotion criteria, and
----are enrolled in the IP in an Independent School at S12.
my understanding is : it is additional EESIS to the top3%.

5. absolute number and top school COP:
in 2012, EESIS is 263 (someone say it is 262), based on last year 48000 pupils, there are 1440 pupils were granted EESIS.
in 2013, EEIS is 258, based on 43000 pupils, there are 1290 pupils. differences is 150 pupils.
if top school don't drop their places, and get same number of DSA as last year, this year may COP lower than 258 to fill up the 150 places.
but school may try to normalize the COP, by getting more DSA. so the final COP could be very close to last year.

[ngbrdad]

So if a student whose initial PSLE score did not reach the EESIS cut off but went to an independent school, who subsequently does very well in year 2 and above, definitely withing top 1/3 of the cohort,

So is this student eligible for EESIS from year 2 onwards ?

[wonderm]

So if a student whose initial PSLE score did not reach the EESIS cut off but went to an independent school, who subsequently does very well in year 2 and above, definitely withing top 1/3 of the cohort,

So is this student eligible for EESIS from year 2 onwards ?

For a student in IP school, if he/she didn't make the EESIS cutoff with PSLE T score, he cannot get EESIS anymore but he can get the same amount of money to cover the school fees in 2 ways:

1. Each year, the top 5% of students in that school cohort will be given approximately $2400 (same amount as annual EESIS) by MOE. Note this top 5% is among the whole school cohort including those already on EESIS. For example, if the school Sec 1 cohort has 400 students, top 20 students are eligible, but if 18 of them were already on EESIS, then only 2 students will get this $2400.

2. At the start of Sec 3, all those not on EESIS, have a chance to take a test from MOE. If they do well, they can get ESIP. This will last for 4 years, from year 3 to year 6 in IP school.

[zeemimi]

Sorry I'm not too sure about eesis.
Is the eesis renewable on a yearly basis based on some criteria? I'm referring to those who got it via psle. Tks.

[wonderm]

Sorry I'm not too sure about eesis.
Is the eesis renewable on a yearly basis based on some criteria? I'm referring to those who got it via psle. Tks.

EESIS should be for the entire Sec years, 6 years for IP school. I don't know if there is any minimum performance standard though.

[TravelMummy]

[quote="jpe"]here is my understanding to share:
1. about the total number of pupils is granted for ESSIS

exclude SOTA and Sports school, there are 10 schools. assume each school take 400, so 400 x 10 / 3 = 1333, look at 2013 PSLE 43000+ student, 43000 x 3% = 1291.
so we can say EESIS is top 3%.

Why exclude SOTA & Sports School? They have no top students?!

2.
the statement is how does MOE solve the issue. ie. they give to top 3% first. if not all top3% go IP, they will fill in with others who also go IP but get lower score.

Don't think they will offer to anyone with lower score. Recall speaking to someone from MOE -any scholarship not given out will just be left unoffered. So the next 1% won't be given consideration.


4. about GEPer, so far the GEPer always top performer, I believe most of them will be in top3%. some of them could be lower but based on MOE
----1.2 The EESIS is also awarded to Primary 6 Gifted Education Programme (GEP) Singaporean students who:
----meet the P6 GEP promotion criteria, and
----are enrolled in the IP in an Independent School at S12.
my understanding is : it is additional EESIS to the top3%.

That's the irony. Many GEP with scores between 250-257 are also given the EEIS. Why is the cut off for GEP merely at top 10% of cohort while it is so much more stringent for mainstreamers - top 3%? As you rightly pointed out, most GEP kids should be in top 3%, so why can't those be the ones rewarded only, in a meritocratic system. Why more leeway given to GEP and not the rest?

[ngl2010]

That's the irony. Many GEP with scores between 250-257 are also given the EEIS. Why is the cut off for GEP merely at top 10% of cohort while it is so much more stringent for mainstreamers - top 3%? As you rightly pointed out, most GEP kids should be in top 3%, so why can't those be the ones rewarded only, in a meritocratic system. Why more leeway given to GEP and not the rest?

I wonder about it too. I think the requirement should be made the same.

[GreenA]

----1.1 The EESIS are awarded to Singaporean students who are in the top one-third of the total number of secondary 1 pupils admitted to all independent schools (IS)1 , based on their PSLE results.
----The independent schools are Anglo-Chinese School (Independent), Hwa Chong Institution, Methodist Girls’ School, Nanyang Girls’ High School, NUS High School, Raffles Girls School, Raffles Institution, School of the Arts, School of Science & Technology, Singapore Chinese Girls’ School, Singapore Sports School and St Joseph’s Institution.
exclude SOTA and Sports school, there are 10 schools. assume each school take 400, so 400 x 10 / 3 = 1333, look at 2013 PSLE 43000+ student, 43000 x 3% = 1291.
so we can say EESIS is top 3%.

My take of the EESIS COP is a little different.

The intake of IS is constant. It will not change with pupil population. Therefore, number of pupils offered EESIS should be same each year. This number is approximate to 3% of cohort. Therefore, it was referred as an indicator of 3%. In dragon year, EESIS may less then 3%, in Snake year, it may be larger then 3%.

I have a set of figure to show relation between EESIS and COP of RGS n NYGH

Year EESIS RGS NYGH-3
2012 263 263 262
2011 261 261 259
2010 260 260 259
2009 261 260 260
2008 263 263 260
2007 264 266 262

* NYGH column has COP-3. This is to subtract the effect of HML bonus points.

RGS COP seldom falls below EESIS, except year 2009. We can calculate pupil numbers, vs school vacancy:

let's take the dragon year, there are 48000 pupils.

3% of them is 48000 * 0.03 = 1440

suppose 60% of them are girls:
1440 * 0.6 = 864

70% of them will apply for RGS or NYGH:
864 * 0.7 = 605

Total vacancy at these two schools: 840
Half of them are filled with DSA: 420
Place available: 420

of the 420 suscessful DSA pupils: 60% of them meet the COP of respective schools: 420 * 0.6 = 252
(this means, of the 605 EESIS girls who apply for RGS and NYGH, 252 are already admitted through DSA)

So, non-DSA EESIS girl candidates: 605 - 252 = 353
Places available at the two schools: 420

That means, even if all non-DAS EESIS candidates are admitted, the two schools still have 67 places to be filled.

However, in dragon year, RGS COP = EESIS. NYGH = EESIS - 1.

Why top schools COP didn't fall below EESIS? I think there are a few factors:

1. There are non-SC who has good scores but not offered EESIS.
2. NYGH takes in affiliate pupils from NYPS.
3. Schools reserve some places for Apeal, or other considerations.

Look at the historical figures, I dare to speculate that, for year 2013 PSLE,

RGS COP = 258,
NYGH COP = 257+3 = 260,
RI COP = 257,
HCI COP = 254+3 = 257,
NJC COP = 254,
NUSH COP = 257

[piggybank]

Dear GreenA,

Do you have speculation COP for River Valley and ACSI (IB) ?

[Nebbermind]

----1.1 The EESIS are awarded to Singaporean students who are in the top one-third of the total number of secondary 1 pupils admitted to all independent schools (IS)1 , based on their PSLE results.
----The independent schools are Anglo-Chinese School (Independent), Hwa Chong Institution, Methodist Girls’ School, Nanyang Girls’ High School, NUS High School, Raffles Girls School, Raffles Institution, School of the Arts, School of Science & Technology, Singapore Chinese Girls’ School, Singapore Sports School and St Joseph’s Institution.
exclude SOTA and Sports school, there are 10 schools. assume each school take 400, so 400 x 10 / 3 = 1333, look at 2013 PSLE 43000+ student, 43000 x 3% = 1291.
so we can say EESIS is top 3%.

My take of the EESIS COP is a little different.

The intake of IS is constant. It will not change with pupil population. Therefore, number of pupils offered EESIS should be same each year. This number is approximate to 3% of cohort. Therefore, it was referred as an indicator of 3%. In dragon year, EESIS may less then 3%, in Snake year, it may be larger then 3%.

I have a set of figure to show relation between EESIS and COP of RGS n NYGH

Year EESIS RGS NYGH-3
2012 263 263 262
2011 261 261 259
2010 260 260 259
2009 261 260 260
2008 263 263 260
2007 264 266 262

* NYGH column has COP-3. This is to subtract the effect of HML bonus points.

RGS COP seldom falls below EESIS, except year 2009. We can calculate pupil numbers, vs school vacancy:

let's take the dragon year, there are 48000 pupils.

3% of them is 48000 * 0.03 = 1440

suppose 60% of them are girls:
1440 * 0.6 = 864

70% of them will apply for RGS or NYGH:
864 * 0.7 = 605

Total vacancy at these two schools: 840
Half of them are filled with DSA: 420
Place available: 420

of the 420 suscessful DSA pupils: 60% of them meet the COP of respective schools: 420 * 0.6 = 252
(this means, of the 605 EESIS girls who apply for RGS and NYGH, 252 are already admitted through DSA)

So, non-DSA EESIS girl candidates: 605 - 252 = 353
Places available at the two schools: 420

That means, even if all non-DAS EESIS candidates are admitted, the two schools still have 67 places to be filled.

However, in dragon year, RGS COP = EESIS. NYGH = EESIS - 1.

Why top schools COP didn't fall below EESIS? I think there are a few factors:

1. There are non-SC who has good scores but not offered EESIS.
2. Schools reserve some places for Apeal, or other considerations.

Look at the historical figures, I dare to speculate that, for year 2013 PSLE,

RGS COP = 258,
NYGH COP = 257+3 = 260,
RI COP = 257,
HCI COP = 254+3 = 257,
NJC COP = 254,
NUSH COP = 257

Excellent analysis....BUT this is the EESIS thread