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Re: All About GEP

Postby blessmum4 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:38 am

a child wrote:
blessmum4 wrote:Anyone wants to "dispose" off their P4 ERP books? I have a hard time finding them. Also Dd grumble that the font are small. She likes to read bigger font.. How to motivate her?


There are (generally) two methods to obtaining books which are all tried and tested solutions by my friends and I as well as our parents.

First: the expensive method. Grab your Credit Card and head towards Kinokuniya. Go straight to the 'Gifted Readers' section and you'll find at least a couple of books there. If you're contented, great. If not, head towards the counter and give them your list so that the workers can help you locate the books. Most probably you'll find another couple. From one trip alone you should manage at least ten. This is entirely sufficient to cover an entire year's worth of book reviews and school reading. For all other literary exposure, head towards the library for free browsing.

Second: go online to amazon or ebay, your credit card in tow (again). Then search up the books and purchase the cheapest copies or copies with the largest font if you'd like. Checkout and ship it over once to reduce shipping charges. Do remember to check the credibility rating of the seller, or buy the version supplied directly by Amazon, though that would be a few bucks more. Still, cheaper than Kinokuniya.

There are others that recommend the library, but I would not choose to do that. Although borrowing is free and you can reserve the books for a fee and collect from the counter, the books can only be borrowed for a period of 3 weeks (or 6 weeks if you renew). This is not sufficient to cover the whole school year or months of it, which would be preferred since there are multiple assignments you need to take care of.

Sorry, I don't know much about font size as that hasn't been a problem with me.

Hope this helps :D


Thanks "a child". I was trying my luck here to see if anyone like to sell theirs. So it's easier for the new GEPper's mum.

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Re: All About GEP

Postby a child » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:19 pm

dagong99 wrote:
Hi, may I know what is expected for the ERP ? A Book review for each & everyone of them ? What if you can get all the books in the list by the end of the year ?


ERP assignments usually come twice a year, once per semester, and it is about writing a book review based on books on the list. (No, you don't write on every one but only two of them per year, but they're all good books and recommended reads so even if you don't do reports they're still good to read.) We were told once to right an autobiographical account based on a character in a novel, and once to right a letter to a movie producer to sell a novel to them for production, and another time to nominate a book for the Newberry award. Basically for every assignment you're required to assess/critique a story's plot and characterization, etc. as well as offer you own opinions on it. It's just a book review in fancy form.

Throughout the year, there is usually a genre you're supposed to study, which is related to books on the ERP list as well as the main novel you're supposed to study. In P5 we did Mystery and Fantasy, which meant that there were Mystery and Fantasy books included in the ERP list for which we do book reviews. We were also tasked to write mystery and fantasy stories. Likewise in P6, we did biographies and autobiographies, which is linked to the books in the ERP list and we also had to write a biography about a family member. The novel we studied extensively, Friedrich, is also an example of an autobiography.

Hope this helps :D

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Re: All About GEP

Postby a child » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:19 pm

blessmum4 wrote:
Thanks "a child". I was trying my luck here to see if anyone like to sell theirs. So it's easier for the new GEPper's mum.


Oops, sorry for the misunderstanding :lol:

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Re: All About GEP

Postby dagong99 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:26 pm

a child wrote:
dagong99 wrote:
Hi, may I know what is expected for the ERP ? A Book review for each & everyone of them ? What if you can get all the books in the list by the end of the year ?


ERP assignments usually come twice a year, once per semester, and it is about writing a book review based on books on the list. (No, you don't write on every one but only two of them per year, but they're all good books and recommended reads so even if you don't do reports they're still good to read.) We were told once to right an autobiographical account based on a character in a novel, and once to right a letter to a movie producer to sell a novel to them for production, and another time to nominate a book for the Newberry award. Basically for every assignment you're required to assess/critique a story's plot and characterization, etc. as well as offer you
own opinions on it. It's just a book review in fancy form.

Throughout the year, there is usually a genre you're supposed to study, which is related to books on the ERP list as well as the main novel you're supposed to study. In P5 we did Mystery and Fantasy, which meant that there were Mystery and Fantasy books included in the ERP list for which we do book reviews. We were also tasked to write mystery and fantasy stories. Likewise in P6, we did biographies and autobiographies, which is linked to
the books in the ERP list and we also had to write a biography about a family member. The novel we studied extensively, Friedrich, is also an example of an autobiography.

Hope this helps :D


Thanks a lot, a least can put us at ease bcos it's really tough hunting down those books ! Tried eBay just now, the book itself is not that costly but the freight definitely cost a bomb even if you purchase in many at one go & ship together. :cry:

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Re: All About GEP

Postby a child » Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:54 pm

dagong99 wrote:
Thanks a lot, a least can put us at ease bcos it's really tough hunting down those books ! Tried eBay just now, the book itself is not that costly but the freight definitely cost a bomb even if you purchase in many at one go & ship together. :cry:


Yep, only about 5 books are needed, and usually I get them from Kinokuniya, though some friends order online. And others get from Bras Basah. Just one trip down to Kino should solve a year's problems. (But it ain't cheap either ... I spend about $100 per year for the ERP books, and I got member's discount)

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Re: All About GEP

Postby ezmummy » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:53 am

2.46am on my notebook's clock, and I have just spent the last few days, and 2 nites till this hour to read through the 421 pages in this thread!

Hi hi, I'm a newbie here. :) Mummy to son who will be doing GEP in 2012.

I just want to say a big :thankyou: to ALLLLLL of you who have made this thread a wealth of information and resource for newbie parent like me. Answered many of the questions I have in mind. Certainly worth my late nights.

Can also see that the parents (and GEPpers) here are very closely-knitted and the thread is warm and welcoming. :love: Love the culture here :lovesite:

Think I will have questions as the year goes by. Hope to get connected with most of you in these coming years.

Meanwhile, :snooze:

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Re: All About GEP

Postby moltenglass » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:53 am

I took the GEP test some years ago and only got through to the 2nd round. My sister will be taking the test next year and my parents seem intent on piling assessment books on her to "help" her... She is currently one of the top students in her sch and I believe she is a very bright student. However, I can tell that my sister is slightly stressed. I never had to go through these because I was the guinea pig...

Is there something I can do to help, or am I being a worrywart...? I know I should just leave this to my parents, but... ):

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Re: All About GEP

Postby Flowermonaster » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:28 am

ezmummy wrote:2.46am on my notebook's clock, and I have just spent the last few days, and 2 nites till this hour to read through the 421 pages in this thread!

Hi hi, I'm a newbie here. :) Mummy to son who will be doing GEP in 2012.

I just want to say a big :thankyou: to ALLLLLL of you who have made this thread a wealth of information and resource for newbie parent like me. Answered many of the questions I have in mind. Certainly worth my late nights.

Can also see that the parents (and GEPpers) here are very closely-knitted and the thread is warm and welcoming. :love: Love the culture here :lovesite:

Think I will have questions as the year goes by. Hope to get connected with most of you in these coming years.

Meanwhile, :snooze:

Hi Rzmummy, wow! Reading all the pages in one night! It took me several days to read them all and at that time i had less pages to read. :oops:
Welcome to this thread & looking forward to your sharing. :love:

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Re: All About GEP

Postby Flowermonaster » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:50 am

moltenglass wrote:I took the GEP test some years ago and only got through to the 2nd round. My sister will be taking the test next year and my parents seem intent on piling assessment books on her to "help" her... She is currently one of the top students in her sch and I believe she is a very bright student. However, I can tell that my sister is slightly stressed. I never had to go through these because I was the guinea pig...

Is there something I can do to help, or am I being a worrywart...? I know I should just leave this to my parents, but... ):

Moltenglass, you r such a sweet child. You must be very close to your sister. :love:
As a parent, I do understand your parents' action but would strongly suggest they don't pile her with assessment books as that does not help to get your sister into GEP. Just go for the test next year without preparation or stressing her. If she make it on her own then good for her, she is suitable for GEP. If she don't it's not the end of the world since she is already a top student in her school. Please don't put unneccary stress on the poor kid! :cry:
Yes, I agree that the program is good but if the kid don't enjoy, it's useless. Parents have to understand that it's not them joining the program. They have to respect their kids. Being in GEP does not guarantee success in life!

Moltenglass, have you talk to your sister on this before? If your sis feels stress do have a talk with your parents. Good luck to you. :hugs:

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Re: All About GEP

Postby Shoot » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:58 pm

a child wrote:
Shoot wrote:a child,... may i what p5 GEP is like...?(next year for me...) ...just asking...:?


It follows a similar structure as P4, just more projects, more experimental learning. And also bigger and more complicated projects like the ISO. It will be fun as long as you don't procrastinate and leave stuff till the night before it's due and realize that god you still have 3 reflections to do plus every single second draft because you haven't done anything after the draft 1 deadline. Teachers are usually very reasonable and give weeks and weeks of time for projects but somehow we have a tendency to finish everything on the very last day. This is especially applicable to year-long projects like the ISO. Though you meet with mentors every week it's still up to you to do the work. If you want to it is amazingly simple to avoid being scolded by teachers despite not doing work. That shouldn't be the motivation. Rather think what'll happen if you try cramming every single part of your IRS in your last week. Not pretty. Time management's very very important, and it's the one skill teachers don't really teach. Everything else, the content knowledge and stuff, leave it to them. They know they're stuff.

And a note about the projects: though the style is similar to P4, but most likely the teachers won't hold your hand as often, so it's up to you to consult them. If you don't understand they're comments, seek them actively. They aren't mind-readers and they won't know if you don't understand. For one of the ERPs my teacher was going to have me re-do but I consulted her and we realized that it was only one part that needed editing. Time saved: hours.

P5 will certainly be one of the most engaging and thrilling years in the program. Other than the in-school curriculum there's also tons of other competitions and camps that you can participate in. If you have interest in any particular subject as well as (hopefully) an aptitude in it try to show it in class or by doing some extra preparation for competitions like Math Olympiad. It pays off. If you do well in the first few (like SMOPS, NMOS) that everybody's allowed to take most likely you'll be recommended for future competitions and programs and everything will flow from there. Likewise if you're missed by the teachers in the beginning of the year it is very difficult to make up for it later one, because based on my experience at least the pupils sent for competitions for a particular subject tend to be the same. Also don't think competitions = extra. Even though competitions =/= GEP it certainly is an integral component of it that few mainstreamers are exposed to. In the center I was from, during competitions where we have say a team of 6, 5 are GEPers and only one from mainstream. This is (for the more kiasu) also an important part of the DSA portfolio.

Good luck for next year! Many say it is THE YEAR of GEP which encapsulates everything that GEP ever stood for and the whole GEP spirit, and in a way it is: the year with most projects, competitions, activities, etc. Enjoy! (and at the same time attempt to get decent grades because you'll need those next year for DSA)

thanks, a child :celebrate:

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