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Re: All About GEP

Postby iFirefly » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:21 pm

jtoh wrote:
Steadyberry wrote:
ooioo wrote:The last time I checked, the top student PSLE from Rulang a few years back (who was selected for GEP but stayed in Rulang), is now in a top Secondary School Gifted program.


Thanks for your reply. So it is possible for a non-gep to join gep in sec sch.

Btw I hv no intention of starting a fight or war here :itwasntme: only curious to know more..


You can't 'join' GEP in secondary school. You can go to a school like RI/RGS/HCI/NYGH where everyone does the same syllabus, both GEP and mainstream students. But it doesn't mean you will get GEP status, nor that you're 'joining GEP'. You can do well enough to be in the same class as the GEP students in Sec 1, but you are not considered a GEP student, simply because you were not a GEP student in primary school.

In any case, it doesn't really matter bec it's how you perform in secondary school. It's not what your status is.


Thanks jtoh.. It's important for parents to have accurate information to help them make sound decision, should 'invitation' come their way this week.. :smile:

Yes, the child can't "join" (or be invited to join) GEP in Sec Schs, coz there is no more GEP (run by MOE) in Sec Schs.. There are a few Sec Schs which run their own SBGE programs, but these are not the same GEP which MOE used to run in selected Sec Schs before 2008..

In RI, the GEPpers are placed in 7-8 classes.. The top PSLE scorers from mainstream are placed in these GEP classes, with the GEPpers.. Maybe the pace of teaching is slightly faster in these classes, but they all do the same RP syllabus as the remaining 6-7 classes of mainstream boys..


Some info on GEP & SBGE..

http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/program ... nd-growth/

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Re: All About GEP

Postby Steadyberry » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:22 pm

jtoh wrote:
Steadyberry wrote:
ooioo wrote:The last time I checked, the top student PSLE from Rulang a few years back (who was selected for GEP but stayed in Rulang), is now in a top Secondary School Gifted program.


Thanks for your reply. So it is possible for a non-gep to join gep in sec sch.

Btw I hv no intention of starting a fight or war here :itwasntme: only curious to know more..


You can't 'join' GEP in secondary school. You can go to a school like RI/RGS/HCI/NYGH where everyone does the same syllabus, both GEP and mainstream students. But it doesn't mean you will get GEP status, nor that you're 'joining GEP'. You can do well enough to be in the same class as the GEP students in Sec 1, but you are not considered a GEP student, simply
because you were not a GEP student in primary school.

In any case, it doesn't really matter bec it's how you perform in secondary school. It's not what your status is.


Thanks for the clarification. So top Sec sch do hv gep classes but they do the same syllabus as mainstream & sit for the same exams. Conclusion-being offer a place in gep in primary sch is really a once-in-a-lifetime chance. No wonder so many parents want their kids to be in gep so badly. 1 of my friends told me "die die must go if get in, and must move house" :shock:

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Re: All About GEP

Postby sleepy » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:34 pm

Steadyberry wrote:1 of my friends told me "die die must go if get in, and must move house" :shock:


No need to shift la. There should be at least one gep school within reasonable travelling distance.

Unless want Nanyang and ONLY Nanyang.
If happen to live in opposite part of the island and with deep pocket, then move house loh :evil:

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Re: All About GEP

Postby jtoh » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:51 pm

Steadyberry wrote:
jtoh wrote:
You can't 'join' GEP in secondary school. You can go to a school like RI/RGS/HCI/NYGH where everyone does the same syllabus, both GEP and mainstream students. But it doesn't mean you will get GEP status, nor that you're 'joining GEP'. You can do well enough to be in the same class as the GEP students in Sec 1, but you are not considered a GEP student, simply
because you were not a GEP student in primary school.

In any case, it doesn't really matter bec it's how you perform in secondary school. It's not what your status is.


Thanks for the clarification. So top Sec sch do hv gep classes but they do the same syllabus as mainstream & sit for the same exams. Conclusion-being offer a place in gep in primary sch is really a once-in-a-lifetime chance. No wonder so many parents want their kids to be in gep so badly. 1 of my friends told me "die die must go if get in, and must move house" :shock:


I don't see the GEP programme as "die-die must accept" if selected. If the child thinks he will be happier in mainstream, studying at the pace he's used to, why not? He'll probably top mainstream and that might boost his ego and confidence far more than if he were but one of a few hundred similarly very bright students. He'll eventually end up in a good IP secondary school too. That said, GEP is a very good programme for the ones who are suited to it and more importantly, those who display a positive attitude towards it. It is not an easy journey, but you learn a lot (not just academic) along the way.

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Re: All About GEP

Postby Steadyberry » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:28 pm

sleepy wrote:
Steadyberry wrote:1 of my friends told me "die die must go if get in, and must move house" :shock:


No need to shift la. There should be at least one gep school within reasonable travelling distance.

Unless want Nanyang and ONLY Nanyang.
If happen to live in opposite part of the island and with deep pocket, then move house loh :evil:



Talking about school, she mentioned must go nanyang, no other sch. So must move to bukit timah. What is so special about nyps? Sorry I m very blur. I know it is a very popular sch but what makes it so popular? Another parent told me nyps n rgps are the best gep sch. :?

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Re: All About GEP

Postby sleepy » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:49 pm

Steadyberry wrote:
sleepy wrote:
Steadyberry wrote:1 of my friends told me "die die must go if get in, and must move house" :shock:


No need to shift la. There should be at least one gep school within reasonable travelling distance.

Unless want Nanyang and ONLY Nanyang.
If happen to live in opposite part of the island and with deep pocket, then move house loh :evil:



Talking about school, she mentioned must go nanyang, no other sch. So must move to bukit timah. What is so special about nyps? Sorry I m very blur. I know it is a very popular sch but what makes it so popular? Another parent told me nyps n rgps are the best gep sch. :?


I have no idea le. I only know Nanyang has the largest gep cohort.
Maybe your friend can advise?

Anyway, I don't have deep pocket so merely pick the nearest :lol:

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Re: All About GEP

Postby dagong99 » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:28 am

Anyone has the P6 ERP list to share ? Thanks.

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Re: All About GEP

Postby timtamfan » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:08 am

Steadyberry wrote:

Talking about school, she mentioned must go nanyang, no other sch. So must move to bukit timah. What is so special about nyps? Sorry I m very blur. I know it is a very popular sch but what makes it so popular? Another parent told me nyps n rgps are the best gep sch. :?


PM Lee from there mah :).

All the GE centres are supposed to run the GE curriculum identically as managed by GE Branch. The main differences will be school culture (secular vs mission, SAP vs English-dominant, CCA-focus etc). That's why there's always a briefing and showcase for parents to talk to the school via their representatives (scheduled on 9Nov I believe). Parents of existing GE parents will also likely to have observed the behaviours of the different students as there are several 'common' GE activities (so you can ask them for opinion too)

Personally I think proximity is still the most important especially if you plan to take public transport. NYPS is not too far from Farrer Road MRT.

Rumour is that selection results should be out tomorrow. Good luck to all aspirants. A good thing if admitted but it's definitely not a failure if unsuccessful. So many more went on to achieve great success in mainstream, and more than a few struggled badly in GE. As many have pointed out already, GE is just a different way to teach - suitable for independent learners.
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Re: All About GEP

Postby jajnj » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:19 am

Anyone knows if there is school bus to hougang in NYPS?

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Re: All About GEP

Postby 25hr mama » Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:49 pm

Hi dagong99, this is what my dd got this year, not sure whether any change next year. :)

GIFTED EDUCATION PROGRAMME EXTENSIVE READING PROGRAMME (PRIMARY 6)

List A: Biographies and Autobiographies (Term 1)

In Term 1, you will do a study on biographies. You will need to be quite familiar with this genre, thus we would like you to do some reading.

1. Anne Frank, Diary of A Young Girl, 1995, New York: Doubleday.**
2. Annie Dillard, An American Childhood, 1987, New York: Harper & Row.
3. Esther Hautzig, The Endless Steppe, 1968, New York: Harper and Row Publishers.
4. Eudra Welty, One Writer's Beginnings, 1983, New York: Warner Books.
5. Jill Ker Conway, The Road From Coorain, 1990, New York: Alfred a Knopf.
6. Kendall Hailey, The Day I Became An Autodidact, 1988, New York: Dell Publishing.
7. Lorene Carey, Black Ice, 1991, New York: Alfred A. Knopf.
8. Robyn Montana Turner, Rosa Bonheur, 1991, Boston:Little, Brown and Company.
9. Russell Freedman, Eleanor Roosevelt, A Life of Discovery, 1993, New York: Scholastic,
Inc.

References:
a. Penny Britton Kolloff, "Annotated Bibliography of Books for Gifted Girls"
b. Thomas P. Hebert, "Great Books for Gifted Young Men"
c. Thomas P. Hebert, "Great Books for Gifted Young Women"


List B: Fiction (Term 2 - 4)

1. Abelove, Joan, Go and Come Back
2. Alan Garner, The Owl Service
3. Armstrong, William, Sounder
4. Arnow, Harriet, The Dollmaker
5. Bawden, Nina, Carrie's War
6. Berlie Doherty, The Snake-Stone
7. Beverley Naidoo, The Other Side of Truth
8. Blishen, Leon Garfield and Edward, The God Beneath the Sea
9. Blos, Joan M, A Gathering of Days
10. Brian Doyle, Uncle Ronald
11. Brooks, Bruce, Midnight Hour Encores
12. Card, Orson Scott, Ender’s Game
13. Carter, Forrest, The Education of Little Tree
14. Chaim Potok, The Promise
15. Conrad Richter, The Light in the Forest
16. Cooper, Susan, The Grey King
17. Creech, Sharon, Walk Two Moons
18. Cresswell, Helen, Ordinary Jack
19. Crichton, Michael, The Andromeda Strain
20. Crispin Avi, The Cross of Lead
21. Crossley-Holland, Kevin, Storm
22. Dickinson, Peter, City of Gold
23. Dickinson, Peter, The Gift
24. Dorris, Michael, Morning Girl
25. Elizabeth George Speare, The Witch of Blackbird Pond
26. Erik Haugaard, The Little Fishes
27. Fast, Howard, Freedom Road
28. Fisk, Nicholas, Backlash
29. Fisk, Pauline, Midnight Blue
30. Frank, Anne, The Diary of Anne Frank **
31. George, Jean Craighead, Julie of the Wolves
32. Gloss, Molly, The Jump-Off Creek
33. Gripe, Maria, In Time of Bells
34. Gunn, Paula, Spider Woman's Granddaughters
35. Holm, Anne, I am David **
36. Huggan, Isabel, The Elizabeth Stories
37. I.W. Cornwall , The Making of Man
38. Jan Mark, Stratford Boys
39. Jean Thesman , The Ornament Tree
40. Jerome K. Jerome, Three Men in a Boat
41. Kate Seredy, The White Stag
42. Kavanagh, Jack, Barry Sanders: Rocket Running Back
43. Keith, Harold, Rifles for Watie
44. Kevin Henkes, Olive’s Ocean
45. Krumgold, Joseph, Onion John
46. L'Engle, Madeleine, A Swiftly Tilting Planet
47. Linda Sue Park, A Single Shard
48. Line, David, Run for your Life
49. Lively, Penelope, The Ghost of Thomas Kempe
50. Lovelace, Maude Hart, Heaven to Betsy and Betsy In Spite of Herself
51. Lowry, Lois, The Giver
52. Lowry, Lois, Number the Stars **
53. MacGill, Sheila, The Children of Lir
54. Mahon, K. L., Just One Tear
55. Margaret Mahy, The Pirates' Mixed-up Voyage in the Thousand Islands
56. Margorian, Michelle, Goodnight, Mister Tom
57. Marilyn Nelson, Carver: A Life in Poems
58. Matas, Carol, Greater than Angels
59. Mayne, William, A Grass Rope
60. McKay, Hilary, The Exiles in Love
61. McKillip, Patricia, The Forgotten Beasts of Eld
62. Megan Whalen Turner, The Thief
63. Naughton, Bill, A Dog called Nelson
64. Naylor, Phyllis Reynolds, Ice
65. Paterson, Katherine, Jacob Have I Loved
66. Paterson, Katherine, Lyddie
67. Paulsen, Gary, Brian’s Winter
68. Peck, Richard E., Something for Joey
69. Pennebaker, Ruth, Don’t Think Twice
70. Peter Dickinson , The Healer
71. Pinkwater, D. Manus, Alan Mendelsohn, The Boy from Mars
72. Potok, Chaim, The Chosen
73. Powell, Randy, Dean Duffy
74. Ray Bradbury , The Martian Chronicles
75. Richard Peck, A Year Down Yonder
76. Robin McKinley , The Hero and the Crown
77. Rostkowski, Margaret, The Best of Friends
78. Rubinstein, Gillian, Galax-Arena
79. Rylant, Cynthia, Missing May
80. Sid Fleischman, The Whipping Boy
81. Sleator, William, Blackbriar
82. Southall, Ivan, Josh
83. Staples, Suzanne Fisher, Shabanu, Daughter of the Wind
84. Thompson, Julian, Simon Pure
85. Tolan, Stephanie, A Time to Fly
86. Tolan, Stephanie, No Safe Harbors
87. Trevino, Elizabeth Borten, I, Juan de Pareja
88. Ure, Jean, What If They Saw Me Now?
89. Voight, Cynthia, The Runner
90. Williams-Garcia, Rita , Like Sisters on the Homefront
91. Wolff, Virginia Euwer, Mozart Season
92. Woodson, Jacqueline, Last Summer with Maizon and Maizon at Blue Hill
93. Zindel, Paul, The Amazing and Death Defying Diary of Eugene Dingma

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