Alternative School choices after trying mainstream school

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Re: Alternative School choices after trying mainstream schoo

Post by Snow24 » Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:48 pm

Hi

For a child with mild special need who is eligible to enter primary 1 able? what kind of issues parents need to be prepared to handle and the child himself need to cope?

What indicators mean the child cannot fit into mainstream school after trying ?

Is it true that when the child is in primary schools eg primary 1 level the school will not allow him to repeat 1 year at the same level?

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Re: Alternative School choices after trying mainstream schoo

Post by phtthp » Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:24 pm

No.

P1 pupils do not repeat P1.

By end of P1 Term 1 -
3 subject Teachers for English, Maths, Mother Tongue, would have identified pupils from the class who need help, to attend learning support program.

The assessment is done by class subject Tr, apply to all P1 pupils -
Regardless of whether the pupil face learning difficulty issues, or not.

This is in accordance with MOE policy, that all P1 pupils must be equipped with basic reading literacy, plus basic arithmetic skills.
http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/program ... g-support/

Basic reading literacy, must be there.
Otherwise when come to P1 Term 3 or 4, when P1 English Tr start to introduce composition writing, pupils will struggle.
Schools that have a higher standard of English, tend to start composition / essay writing, earlier.

By end of P1 Term 2 (just before June school holidays start), there will be PMT (parents meet Teachers) session, where form Tr meet up with individual parents in class one to one, feedback on your child's learning progress in school, what issues the child encounter.

At this point, during Term 2 PMT, you will have a good feel, whether your child can cope in P1 Mainstream, or not.

After June school holiday, Semester 2 start, from July until November.
At end of P1 Term 4, there will be a second round of PMT.
By this time, whether your child can cope with P1 or not, the Truth will be revealed.
Form Tr will be very frank with parents, who have learning issue -
That is, after trying out one year of P1 Mainstream :
Whether can proceed to P2 Mainstream, or suggest that change to a special school environment, is more suitable for your child's learning to benefit the child, long term.
The recommendation will come from the school.

Let's go back, a bit.

By end of P1 Term 1 -
if your child encounter learning difficulty in class, have a frank and honest talk, with your child's P1 Form Tr.
the form Tr is in contact with your child everyday.
She will be familiar with your child's behavior, learning issue to overcome.

Your form Tr can arrange for an Educational psychologist, from a hospital clinic attached to Ministry of Education, to come down, to assess your child.
There will be some forms for parents to fill in the details, regarding behavior of your child.

Your child's Form Tr will need to list down the issues your child encounter in class, and let the Educational psychologist, to evaluate & to assess.
Likewise, On your part, as a parent, when you meet the Educational psychologist face to face, she will also need you to list down the issues encountered, from you (parents) faced at home, when dealing with your own child.

Example
If a child is dyslexic, or face attention span concentration issues, or autistic, or any other learning difficulty issues.

This Educational psychologist come down to school premises, once in every 2 to 3 months. She doesnt come down every month. but your School can help to arrange for some pupils, to see her. But normally, this Educational psychologist will attend to the more severe, urgent cases, first. There may be more than one child in your school queuing up, waiting to see her.

Through this way, parents can pay a small, nominal fee, to the consultation / treatment given, recommended by Educational psychologist.
In contrast, for dyslexic pupils, if just walk in straight like that to the Association of Dyslexia (Sg), consultation can be costly.
But if go through schools, it can help in savings, long term.

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Re: Alternative School choices after trying mainstream schoo

Post by phtthp » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:08 pm

Suppose your child proceed forward, onto Mainstream P2, P3, P4.

When reach higher level, P4 to P6 -
also not allowed to repeat.

Because Subject based banding occur.
This is compulsory across all primary schools to all pupils (regardless of whether face learning difficulty issue or not), in compliance to MOE curriculum
http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/primary ... anding.pdf

based on end of The year Science & Maths results, To enter into Upper primary -
students in Mainstream will be streamed accordingly , to tAke up :-
- either Foundation Maths, or normal, regular Maths, and
- either Foundation Science, or normal, regular Science curriculum.

MOE had introduced the appropriate curriculum, to help pupils, to learn at their suitable, comfortable pace.
Hence, do away with "repeating the same level, as had happened before in the past (history)".

To summarize, nowadays, schools do not allow repeating, from P1 to P6.
The child will automatically be pushed up to the next higher level.
When reach P4 to P6 : all pupils will be streamed accordingly, based on subjects.

However, in circumstances whereby a child really can't cope with Mainstream, school can recommend suggestions to parents which other alternative schools are more suitable and benefit the child better, long term. Everything is being considered, from the view point of the child, to help the child in education.

In Mainstream, P1 and P2 : around 30 pupils, per class.
P1 pupils move up to P2 : same class

most schools have silent banding (not official), at end of P2.
At end of P2 : pupils will be "silently" banded into P3 classes.

From P3 onwards : Mainstream will have around 40 pupils, per class, bigger class now, instead of previously 30.

Every autistic child, is different.
If a child is autistic, high functioning and able to cope with the pace in Mainstream, child will remain in school, study all the way until P6.

But if a child is autistic, unable to cope after trying out Mainstream -
schools can recommend Pathlight, where the students to Tr ratio per class is much smaller, and Tr in Pathlight can pay more attention, to your child.

Schools can help to transfer your child to Pathlight.
But Pathlight first need to assess your child.
Pathlight will also revert back to Mainstream schools' Form Tr what issues the child had encountered, previously, for background history, during evaluation consideration process.
On her own, Pathlight will also need to conduct some tests, on the child.

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Re: Alternative School choices after trying mainstream schoo

Post by ananasattic » Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:50 pm

Hi all,

This forum and particularly this thread seems rather quiet, but I shall try to post here. I would like to link up with other parents with kids who have Mild Intellectual Disability. My child has been diagnosed with it and I would like to find out more about the various special schools in Singapore. I know there is information on the various special schools' websites, but I hope to find out more from parents' personal experience with the schools and their programmes .

Hope I'll be able to link up with such parents here... :smile:

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Re: Alternative School choices after trying mainstream schoo

Post by phy09 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:33 pm

Want to check if any parent has kid with mild ID and in a mainstream Pri sch. :thankyou:

Pls share how the sch has helped and the difficulties your kid faced.

:thankyou:


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Re: Alternative School choices after trying mainstream schoo

Post by ananasattic » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:03 am

Hi, you may email me at mizzchicmizz@gmail.com. My son has MID, deferred p1 entrance by 2 years and now in a mainstream school at P2.

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