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Re: Alternative School choices after trying mainstream schoo

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:48 pm
by Snow24
Hi

For a child with mild special need who is eligible to enter primary 1 able? what kind of issues parents need to be prepared to handle and the child himself need to cope?

What indicators mean the child cannot fit into mainstream school after trying ?

Is it true that when the child is in primary schools eg primary 1 level the school will not allow him to repeat 1 year at the same level?

Re: Alternative School choices after trying mainstream schoo

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:24 pm
by phtthp
No.

P1 pupils do not repeat P1.

By end of P1 Term 1 -
3 subject Teachers for English, Maths, Mother Tongue, would have identified pupils from the class who need help, to attend learning support program.

The assessment is done by class subject Tr, apply to all P1 pupils -
Regardless of whether the pupil face learning difficulty issues, or not.

This is in accordance with MOE policy, that all P1 pupils must be equipped with basic reading literacy, plus basic arithmetic skills.
http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/program ... g-support/

Basic reading literacy, must be there.
Otherwise when come to P1 Term 3 or 4, when P1 English Tr start to introduce composition writing, pupils will struggle.
Schools that have a higher standard of English, tend to start composition / essay writing, earlier.

By end of P1 Term 2 (just before June school holidays start), there will be PMT (parents meet Teachers) session, where form Tr meet up with individual parents in class one to one, feedback on your child's learning progress in school, what issues the child encounter.

At this point, during Term 2 PMT, you will have a good feel, whether your child can cope in P1 Mainstream, or not.

After June school holiday, Semester 2 start, from July until November.
At end of P1 Term 4, there will be a second round of PMT.
By this time, whether your child can cope with P1 or not, the Truth will be revealed.
Form Tr will be very frank with parents, who have learning issue -
That is, after trying out one year of P1 Mainstream :
Whether can proceed to P2 Mainstream, or suggest that change to a special school environment, is more suitable for your child's learning to benefit the child, long term.
The recommendation will come from the school.

Let's go back, a bit.

By end of P1 Term 1 -
if your child encounter learning difficulty in class, have a frank and honest talk, with your child's P1 Form Tr.
the form Tr is in contact with your child everyday.
She will be familiar with your child's behavior, learning issue to overcome.

Your form Tr can arrange for an Educational psychologist, from a hospital clinic attached to Ministry of Education, to come down, to assess your child.
There will be some forms for parents to fill in the details, regarding behavior of your child.

Your child's Form Tr will need to list down the issues your child encounter in class, and let the Educational psychologist, to evaluate & to assess.
Likewise, On your part, as a parent, when you meet the Educational psychologist face to face, she will also need you to list down the issues encountered, from you (parents) faced at home, when dealing with your own child.

Example
If a child is dyslexic, or face attention span concentration issues, or autistic, or any other learning difficulty issues.

This Educational psychologist come down to school premises, once in every 2 to 3 months. She doesnt come down every month. but your School can help to arrange for some pupils, to see her. But normally, this Educational psychologist will attend to the more severe, urgent cases, first. There may be more than one child in your school queuing up, waiting to see her.

Through this way, parents can pay a small, nominal fee, to the consultation / treatment given, recommended by Educational psychologist.
In contrast, for dyslexic pupils, if just walk in straight like that to the Association of Dyslexia (Sg), consultation can be costly.
But if go through schools, it can help in savings, long term.

Re: Alternative School choices after trying mainstream schoo

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:08 pm
by phtthp
Suppose your child proceed forward, onto Mainstream P2, P3, P4.

When reach higher level, P4 to P6 -
also not allowed to repeat.

Because Subject based banding occur.
This is compulsory across all primary schools to all pupils (regardless of whether face learning difficulty issue or not), in compliance to MOE curriculum
http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/primary ... anding.pdf

based on end of The year Science & Maths results, To enter into Upper primary -
students in Mainstream will be streamed accordingly , to tAke up :-
- either Foundation Maths, or normal, regular Maths, and
- either Foundation Science, or normal, regular Science curriculum.

MOE had introduced the appropriate curriculum, to help pupils, to learn at their suitable, comfortable pace.
Hence, do away with "repeating the same level, as had happened before in the past (history)".

To summarize, nowadays, schools do not allow repeating, from P1 to P6.
The child will automatically be pushed up to the next higher level.
When reach P4 to P6 : all pupils will be streamed accordingly, based on subjects.

However, in circumstances whereby a child really can't cope with Mainstream, school can recommend suggestions to parents which other alternative schools are more suitable and benefit the child better, long term. Everything is being considered, from the view point of the child, to help the child in education.

In Mainstream, P1 and P2 : around 30 pupils, per class.
P1 pupils move up to P2 : same class

most schools have silent banding (not official), at end of P2.
At end of P2 : pupils will be "silently" banded into P3 classes.

From P3 onwards : Mainstream will have around 40 pupils, per class, bigger class now, instead of previously 30.

Every autistic child, is different.
If a child is autistic, high functioning and able to cope with the pace in Mainstream, child will remain in school, study all the way until P6.

But if a child is autistic, unable to cope after trying out Mainstream -
schools can recommend Pathlight, where the students to Tr ratio per class is much smaller, and Tr in Pathlight can pay more attention, to your child.

Schools can help to transfer your child to Pathlight.
But Pathlight first need to assess your child.
Pathlight will also revert back to Mainstream schools' Form Tr what issues the child had encountered, previously, for background history, during evaluation consideration process.
On her own, Pathlight will also need to conduct some tests, on the child.

Re: Alternative School choices after trying mainstream schoo

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:33 pm
by phy09
Want to check if any parent has kid with mild ID and in a mainstream Pri sch. :thankyou:

Pls share how the sch has helped and the difficulties your kid faced.

:thankyou:

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Re: Alternative School choices after trying mainstream school

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:59 pm
by kay_liz
Hi, any parents with children diagnosed with MID and in a Special education sch? I deferred my child for a year and she entered mainstream P1 when she is 8. However, she is not really coping very well and need a lot of guidance to be able to complete her homework. She is also in all the learning support programs & also remedial. I am considering to switch her to a sped sch so it will not be so tough for her. However i don’t know if it will be the right choice and I hope someone can share his/her experience with me.

Thank you!

Re: Alternative School choices after trying mainstream school

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:06 am
by slmkhoo
kay_liz wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:59 pm
Hi, any parents with children diagnosed with MID and in a Special education sch? I deferred my child for a year and she entered mainstream P1 when she is 8. However, she is not really coping very well and need a lot of guidance to be able to complete her homework. She is also in all the learning support programs & also remedial. I am considering to switch her to a sped sch so it will not be so tough for her. However i don’t know if it will be the right choice and I hope someone can share his/her experience with me.

Thank you!
My daughter has ASD (Asperger's) and was in mainstream school all the way and is graduating from university this year. She does not have MID, though, so our considerations were different. But throughout her education, our main question to ourselves was "Is she thriving?". Even though she needed a lot of support from us, not so much from the school as her issues were not purely academic, we evaluated the situation depending on whether she was still coping, and whether she was losing confidence or getting too stressed. Although there were hard and stressful times, they were overall manageable and short-lived. So we continued year by year to where we are now. If you feel that your daughter is still thriving - meaning that you see progress, her self-confidence is not being destroyed, she is not too stressed for long periods, she has opportunities to have fun and explore her own interests to some extent, etc. then you may want to let her continue. But if you feel that her quality of life is suffering and she's doing nothing except try to keep up, then an alternative solution may be better. As parents, you will know her situation best.

Re: Alternative School choices after trying mainstream school

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 4:35 pm
by KiasuAhTan
kay_liz wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:59 pm
Hi, any parents with children diagnosed with MID and in a Special education sch? I deferred my child for a year and she entered mainstream P1 when she is 8. However, she is not really coping very well and need a lot of guidance to be able to complete her homework. She is also in all the learning support programs & also remedial. I am considering to switch her to a sped sch so it will not be so tough for her. However i don’t know if it will be the right choice and I hope someone can share his/her experience with me.

Thank you!
I'm in similar situation. Trying to defer my child for a year, could you share the process of doing so? Did you apply for mainstream first and defer? was it the advice given by EPIC/Doc? Did you do the school assessment test? IQ test etc?

Re: Alternative School choices after trying mainstream school

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:36 pm
by gwendolyn2601
My name is G. I used to assist in Occupational Therapy sessions for special needs children and provide tuition services.

I am an advocate for physical-based activities as it:
⁃ improves one’s concentration and memory
⁃ improves one’s health and well-being
⁃ provides greater confidence
⁃ makes tuition not so boring
⁃ improves one’s gross (e.g. throwing ball, cycling) and fine motor skills (e.g. tying shoe lace, opening bottle can, buttoning shirt)

Each session is a flat rate of $35/hr.

Duration (once/ twice weekly and 1hr/ 1.5hrs per session) and content of sessions are customised accordingly, depending on your goal:
⁃ Functional life skills activity (e.g. crossing road, counting money and buying things, folding clothes)
⁃ Indoor fun activity (e.g. games, play dough, mini obstacles at home)
⁃ Pre-writing/ education (eg primary school math/science/chinese)

I always believe a child is able to better focus/ regulate with sufficient physical activities. Same goes for Adult.

Message me for discussion and i can provide more information (eg past experiences and future plans). Let’s work together and help your child achieve greater heights!

*Disclaimer: I do not provide initial assessment/ evaluation, physical activities might cause little abrasion (which can help a child to grow stronger) :)

The key component to achieving various goals is keeping the sessions and activities fun and “child-directed” if possible. This means I allow the child to pick what we do but I manipulate it into being therapeutic and to work on the goals I have set for the child. This way, it is always motivating, and the child does not realise that they are doing “work.” When working at home, I encourage you to be playful and imaginative with the activities, this will yield the best results.
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Re: Alternative School choices after trying mainstream school

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:12 pm
by nutsaboutarts
Hi, I would suggest homeschooling for your child. When your child goes to secondary level, Pathlight needs not be the only choice. You can also consider IGCSE. You can just register at British Council Singapore as a private candidate. The best thing is your child do not need to take all the subjects at one go. At the end of the day, it is recognised locally and overseas just like O Level examinations. Choose the path that is best for your child. There is no need to follow any norm. Best wishes! :)