High Ability Pupils - Maths. How are you stretching them?

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High Ability Pupils - Maths. How are you stretching them?

Postby BeContented » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:59 pm

Hi,
Like to find out more from parents with high ability kids - specifically Maths.

How do you stretch them? I can't :oops: hence hoping to learn from others.
Does your child attend tuition, at which centre?
What are the assessment books available in the market that you'll recommend ?

Thanks and hoping to hear some feedback.

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Postby Nebbermind » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:48 pm

how old is he and how did u identify he is HA in math?

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Postby BeContented » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:31 pm

Hi,
He's P5 this year. I didn't know about this High Ability stuff until we received a letter from school when he was in early P4. Apparently, after the GEP screening in P3 (he didn't clear round 2 tho), those who did well will be identified under this HA scheme - Maths/English. The letter states that MOE has identified him as a High Ability pupil and he was selected to attend a fully funded Maths (~14 lessons) course under the W3 cluster. We need to sign a form to declare commitment to attend. Not sure how long it'll last, but he's still attending another round this year.

On off, he also gets invitation to attend some Maths/Science workshop. There's also an Innovation Programme (~15 sessions) too.

From what I learnt, MOE only identifies and inform the school. Good schools with resources probably do not send their pupils out to other schools. Schools lacking the resources will probably combine and all gather under a particular cluster to provide the course eg. West Grove. That's about all I know.

Actually, I think the word High Ability is a BIG WORD, I would just say they are probably just stronger in that subject with capacity to be stretched more ;)

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Postby sleepy » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:24 pm

Just let him attempt 1 or 2 levels up. Can stretch him to do P6 level Maths questions. Would be more interesting for your ds if P5 is too easy for him.

And need not be solely academic. Can let him do Maths Olympiad questions or brainteasers, IQ puzzles for fun.

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Postby BeContented » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:24 pm

sleepy wrote:Just let him attempt 1 or 2 levels up. Can stretch him to do P6 level Maths questions. Would be more interesting for your ds if P5 is too easy for him.

And need not be solely academic. Can let him do Maths Olympiad questions or brainteasers, IQ puzzles for fun.


Hi Sleepy,
In his earlier years, I would stretch him and teach him a little more than what's in his syllabus as I could see that he is not challenged. Would also let him do 1 level up, but generally, he would still be able to cope without much difficulty. But I stopped that since P4 :oops: Guess it's because he started the HA course plus I signed him up with Maths Hub ~term3, so kinda got lazy :wink: You're right, I probably can just start digging out all my treasures (P6 assessments) and start him on them....whatever he hasn't learn, just leave it aside and return later :)

Honestly, I already own a number of brainteasers, IQ puzzles, NMOS booklets etc.....whenever he has the mood, he'll try them himself. Guess it's more the school syllabus that I'm looking at......

Thanks for reminding me ......I better buck up !!!

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Postby verykiasu2010 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:40 pm

math olympiad style of training for the HA kids in math need to be done in systematic approach. the AMEC course from school is not enough

so you should sign him up to train for NMOS, AMC, AMC8, SMOPS, RI World MAth, Gauss, PLK etc
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Postby BeContented » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:42 pm

verykiasu2010 wrote:math olympiad style of training for the HA kids in math need to be done in systematic approach. the AMEC course from school is not enough

so you should sign him up to train for NMOS, AMC, AMC8, SMOPS, RI World MAth, Gauss, PLK etc


Hi,
Sorry for the ignorance....but what is AMEC? For the Maths Hub, he's under the NMOS class, I guess that is sufficient? No?

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Postby verykiasu2010 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:46 pm

cwc wrote:
verykiasu2010 wrote:math olympiad style of training for the HA kids in math need to be done in systematic approach. the AMEC course from school is not enough

so you should sign him up to train for NMOS, AMC, AMC8, SMOPS, RI World MAth, Gauss, PLK etc


Hi,
Sorry for the ignorance....but what is AMEC? For the Maths Hub, he's under the NMOS class, I guess that is sufficient? No?


AMEC is the generic name for school-based advanced mathematic enrichment course

nmos is for p5, then you need to continue to smops for p6, amc 8 is for p5/6, smo for p6/sec 1 onward
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Postby fanren » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:18 pm

cwc wrote:Hi,
He's P5 this year. I didn't know about this High Ability stuff until we received a letter from school when he was in early P4. Apparently, after the GEP screening in P3 (he didn't clear round 2 tho), those who did well will be identified under this HA scheme - Maths/English. The letter states that MOE has identified him as a High Ability pupil and he was selected to attend a fully funded Maths (~14 lessons) course under the W3 cluster. We need to sign a form to declare commitment to attend. Not sure how long it'll last, but he's still attending another round this year.

On off, he also gets invitation to attend some Maths/Science workshop. There's also an Innovation Programme (~15 sessions) too.

From what I learnt, MOE only identifies and inform the school. Good schools with resources probably do not send their pupils out to other schools. Schools lacking the resources will probably combine and all gather under a particular cluster to provide the course eg. West Grove. That's about all I know.

Actually, I think the word High Ability is a BIG WORD, I would just say they are probably just stronger in that subject with capacity to be stretched more ;)


I agree nowadays, HA or Gifted those words are use carelessly. My son in gifted programme i also dun think he is gifted, maybe just HA nia.

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Postby etuc » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:35 pm

cwc wrote:
sleepy wrote:Just let him attempt 1 or 2 levels up. Can stretch him to do P6 level Maths questions. Would be more interesting for your ds if P5 is too easy for him.

And need not be solely academic. Can let him do Maths Olympiad questions or brainteasers, IQ puzzles for fun.


Hi Sleepy,
In his earlier years, I would stretch him and teach him a little more than what's in his syllabus as I could see that he is not challenged. Would also let him do 1 level up, but generally, he would still be able to cope without much difficulty. But I stopped that since P4 :oops: Guess it's because he started the HA course plus I signed him up with Maths Hub ~term3, so kinda got lazy :wink: You're right, I probably can just start digging out all my treasures (P6 assessments) and start him on them....whatever he hasn't learn, just leave it aside and return later :)

Honestly, I already own a number of brainteasers, IQ puzzles, NMOS booklets etc.....whenever he has the mood, he'll try them himself. Guess it's more the school syllabus that I'm looking at......

Thanks for reminding me ......I better buck up !!!


If you want your son to continue to be interested and do well in Math, I think it is better to expose him to stuff outside the school syllabus. With his ability, I don't think you have to worry about his PSLE.

Try getting some books by Martin Gardner. :D

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