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Postby jedamum » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:33 pm

1. how do you compare orange to apple?
2. have you done a search before posting?
discussion on Kumon here.
discussion on Abacus here.

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Postby shaynamommy » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:16 am

Hello grandmaster. Sorry my comments to your queries as follows, maybe I haven't phrased my query in the right context.

1. Comparing apples to oranges? But they are both pertaining to maths enrichment.. It's like comparing Tien Hsia vs Berries for Chinese enrichment, correct? Both use diff methods for Chinese and I thought if there are parents who have had the chance to experience both methods for maths, it'd be much appreciated if they can share. Particularly if they have switched from one method to the other.
2. Okay I know the etiquette for this forum lah. Yes, I had read thru all the postings on both topics but still did not get the answers. For instance kumon requires daily worksheets within 10 Mins and abacus training seems to have homework but is it given for daily practice?

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Postby jedamum » Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:35 am

shaynamommy wrote:1. Comparing apples to oranges? But they are both pertaining to maths enrichment.. It's like comparing Tien Hsia vs Berries for Chinese enrichment, correct? Both use diff methods for Chinese and I thought if there are parents who have had the chance to experience both methods for maths, it'd be much appreciated if they can share. Particularly if they have switched from one method to the other.

Tien Hsia, Berries, etc all teaches chineses; word recognition basics for preschoolers; all relevant to prepare for MOE P1 Chinese.
Abacus touches on Left/Right Brain; Kumon on rote learning - obviously different.
If you had read through Abacus thread and Kumon thread, you may realised that both Abacus and Kumon's Math cons is that it is not entirely in line with MOE's math syllabus; Abacus train the brain and also forms the foundation of mental calculation for speedier calculation; Kumon prides itself in allowing kids to progress at their own pace; some kids cannot stand rote learning via Kumon Math; some kids cannot visualise abacus beads - how to compare?
IMO, it is best for you to read through both threads, post questions separately for both threads and then derived at your/your kid's preferred method of learning.
As for wanting to know if abacus have daily homework, you can post that in the Abacus Thread.

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Re: Kumon vs Abacus training

Postby sleepy » Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:58 pm

shaynamommy wrote:
Hi

Just want to check if any parents know which maths method is better - Abacus or Kumon? My dd has been with Kumon maths for more than a year and doing okay but the kiasu mum here is just wondering if abacus training would be better.


My elder child was with Kumon whilst younger one is taking abacus. I find their progress comparable, both can do addition/subtraction at 4+ years old. Both programmes have merits & require consistent work. However, if really have to choose one, I think I would opt for abacus because I find abacus workload more manageable (for me!). Less worksheets = less nagging :wink:

I agreed with Jedamum that both Kumon & abacus aren't quite in sync with MOE's model drawing & heuristic type of questions. In my opinion, these 2 programmes seem more suitable for preschoolers, to build a stronger foundation in Maths. Once reach primary school level, I prefer a Maths programme that follows MOE syllabus. That's just my personal preference. There are many kids who continue even when they are in primary schools

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Postby shaynamommy » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:51 pm

Sleepy and Jedamum, thanks for the advice. I agree on the Kumon workload, it has become a constant struggle for me and my dd. I would pose my queries regarding Abacus on the other thread... Thanks!

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Postby Jona » Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:37 pm

Hi,

My DS is in Kumon 2A in English. And is in K2. Kumon is catered for individual learning abilities. Each student learns in a different pace. Since Kumon teaches each student individually it is good for my son. He has picked up English reading so well, and is able to read books ahead of his age. I had put him in phonics class as well. Definitely it does help kids to pick up in their speed. Individual attention is given to each kid since my kid gets usually distracted easily. It develops a sense of time, discipline and legible handwriting.

English is same every where whether it is school or anywhere else. Kumon English exposes kids to wide vocabulary, and memory drill methods. And it is upto the kids to pick up in their own pace which is the strength of Kumon. It is a proven method for success though initially kids may find it boring and repetitive. Kumon English just requires kids to spare 10 min a day for completing the worksheets.

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Re: Kumon vs Abacus training

Postby vividlaurel » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:39 am

Is there any programme around which follows the MOE maths syllabus?

sleepy wrote:I agreed with Jedamum that both Kumon & abacus aren't quite in sync with MOE's model drawing & heuristic type of questions. In my opinion, these 2 programmes seem more suitable for preschoolers, to build a stronger foundation in Maths. Once reach primary school level, I prefer a Maths programme that follows MOE syllabus. That's just my personal preference. There are many kids who continue even when they are in primary schools

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Re: Kumon vs Abacus training

Postby sleepy » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:52 am

vividlaurel wrote:Is there any programme around which follows the MOE maths syllabus?


I'm still searching. I heard MPM quite close although not exactly.

Meantime hubby & I coaching her personally. Hubby covers maths olympiad while I rely on assessment books

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Re: Kumon vs Abacus training

Postby vividlaurel » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:19 am

Thanks sleepy! Do you know where I can get maths Olympiad books, especially for P1?

sleepy wrote:
vividlaurel wrote:Is there any programme around which follows the MOE maths syllabus?


I'm still searching. I heard MPM quite close although not exactly.

Meantime hubby & I coaching her personally. Hubby covers maths olympiad while I rely on assessment books

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Postby hnghng » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:27 pm

Woh! Yrs only need 10 min to finish the worksheet.
My son also in K2 & 2A now. He need about 40 min to finish it.
Of course talking a lot :) He repeat 3 times for every worksheet.
How about you?

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