How to improve Chinese Composition?

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Re: How to improve Chinese Composition?

Post by JessicaChang84 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:23 pm

This information is great, i will start researching in preparation for my daughter’s upcoming SA1. Thanks all!

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Re: How to improve Chinese Composition?

Post by zac's mum » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:56 am

Hi...hoping to get some answers from parents of older kids here.

For Chinese composition, what are the KPIs that the school teachers are looking for? Any idea what is their marking scheme like? Eg, do they give extra marks for “good phrases”? Do they give marks for creativity? Do they give marks for concluding with a moral? Why are tuition centers making kids memorize all those phrases? Are they really guaranteed to get you high marks? Is that the secret formula for aceing Chinese?

I’m in a dilemma here, because my kid is happily writing his own creative style of zuowen in his tuition assignments. Refused to follow the suggested good phrases samples. Just write his own very simple sentences but with lots of humorous details. The teacher also never condemn it, nor force him to follow the model answer. I do not know if this sort of zuowen will score good marks in school or not??

He is P2 only. His school does not start zuowen until P3, so I would look like super kiasu and strange if I ask his P2 teacher now. Any parents can advise me?

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Re: How to improve Chinese Composition?

Post by Soscate » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:26 pm

zac's mum wrote:Hi...hoping to get some answers from parents of older kids here.

For Chinese composition, what are the KPIs that the school teachers are looking for? Any idea what is their marking scheme like? Eg, do they give extra marks for “good phrases”? Do they give marks for creativity? Do they give marks for concluding with a moral? Why are tuition centers making kids memorize all those phrases? Are they really guaranteed to get you high marks? Is that the secret formula for aceing Chinese?

I’m in a dilemma here, because my kid is happily writing his own creative style of zuowen in his tuition assignments. Refused to follow the suggested good phrases samples. Just write his own very simple sentences but with lots of humorous details. The teacher also never condemn it, nor force him to follow the model answer. I do not know if this sort of zuowen will score good marks in school or not??

He is P2 only. His school does not start zuowen until P3, so I would look like super kiasu and strange if I ask his P2 teacher now. Any parents can advise me?
My composition enrichment teacher recently explains this to me, theme is of the utmost importance. The reason for this composition to be written must be clearly explained (oft repeated in the concluding paragraph), otherwise, content, hence overall composition marks, will both suffer a failing fate. Themes need to concur with MOE preferred topics: good character values, ethics, lesson learnt.
KPIs: theme, yuyan (dialogue), shenqing, xinli, dongzuo, conclusion
Extra marks: strong beginning, minimal mistakes in characters/grammar
Memorising means the time saved from conjuring on the spot can be used to better develop the plot. Yes. And yes. We are an SAP school; I am of the opinion that our teachers will not hesitate to mark down irrelevant creativity.

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Re: How to improve Chinese Composition?

Post by zac's mum » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:08 am

Thank you for sharing your point of view. After some thought, I decided not to reprimand my son in his current writing style. He still has time to learn the “memorization” style when the time comes for his eventual exams. His memory is good anyway.

Came across this in the Straits Times forum page today:

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Re: How to improve Chinese Composition?

Post by Soscate » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:39 am

zac's mum wrote:Thank you for sharing your point of view. After some thought, I decided not to reprimand my son in his current writing style. He still has time to learn the “memorization” style when the time comes for his eventual exams. His memory is good anyway.
Please do not misunderstand, I was simply responding to the queries. There's absolutely nothing to chide with regards to writing creatively. Nevertheless, at the end of the day, the author needs to understand the objective of that piece of writing & it's target audience, id est, the difference between writing for exams & writing for personal consumption, c'est tout.


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Re: How to improve Chinese Composition?

Post by comfy » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:56 pm

zac's mum wrote:Hi...hoping to get some answers from parents of older kids here.

For Chinese composition, what are the KPIs that the school teachers are looking for? Any idea what is their marking scheme like? Eg, do they give extra marks for “good phrases”? Yes Do they give marks for creativity? Yes if it is applicable Do they give marks for concluding with a moral?Normally, yes for a good ending/conclusion Why are tuition centers making kids memorize all those phrases?To expand their vocab and expression Are they really guaranteed to get you high marks?Depend, if you happen to hit the nail on the head and use the chengyu appropriately then Yes. Is that the secret formula for aceing Chinese?

I’m in a dilemma here, because my kid is happily writing his own creative style of zuowen in his tuition assignments. Refused to follow the suggested good phrases samples. Just write his own very simple sentences but with lots of humorous details. The teacher also never condemn it, nor force him to follow the model answer. I do not know if this sort of zuowen will score good marks in school or not?? Have you ask the tuition's teacher?

He is P2 only. His school does not start zuowen until P3, so I would look like super kiasu and strange if I ask his P2 teacher now. Any parents can advise me?
If you allow him to write his way then what is the point of sending him there? Will he continue to do that in the upper Pr?

This is just sharing, no offense. I always tell my dd that if she is not learning anything from the tuition centre then I will stop sending her. My comment is highlighted in blue.
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Re: How to improve Chinese Composition?

Post by zac's mum » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:30 pm

Thank u for your reply and for your comments. Your answers match those given by the other parent, so I it seems that my guess is correct (about the compo marking rubrics). Well, nothing much has changed since my own schooling days then lol!

The tuition teacher said that the model answer is for reference only. So she is not expecting the kids to follow the sample word-for-word. Nor does she want them to memorize any 成语 or chunks of text. Just understand the meaning can already. I send my kid to this “tuition centre” for enrichment purposes. Not for pulling up his marks in school (he is not struggling in Chinese). So this “early” exposure to compo techniques, ahead of his school, suits me fine. If in future, his school teacher really requests the kids to regurgitate those boring pat phrases, then I guess I will force him to memorize lor. The ends justifies the means, right? That’s how I aced my Higher Chinese but with no joy :roll:

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Re: How to improve Chinese Composition?

Post by comfy » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:45 pm

keke….I send my child for enrichment PLUS 'hope' to do well/score in it.

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Re: How to improve Chinese Composition?

Post by Kyee » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:17 pm

Hi

I have one question about picture composition. There were several occasions when the characters in the pictures were not very clearly illustrated, for example, students argue if a character is a young lady, teenager, middle age women or grandmother. How much will it affect the student's score if he/she mistook the character's age but still keeping the theme intact throughout? In fact, it happened in Chinese oral pictures b4 as well in lower primary. In one case, a man in the picture was illustrated with shoulder length hair and some students thought it was a lady.

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