Wang Learning Centre 汪老師 - Discussion

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Re: Wang Learning Centre 汪老師 - Discussion

Post by laughingcat » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:36 pm

Noticed a lot of parents are confuse or not knowing which centres to place your child in. Observe your child and see where your child is in terms of standard. Once your child is way surpass a certain level and you do not see the improvement, just move on. It is very easy to see for lower primary kids.

I taught both my children using SWKD when they are in pre-nursery and at the same time attended the Berries. I like Berries because it also induce fun learning. I don’t want the children to hate chinese language and Berries environment is good. Till to date, both my children still talk about their experiences in Berries.

However half way K1, DC1 standard became so good (all thanks to SWKD) that knew whatever words Berries introduce in the lesson. There weren’t much challenge and hence I drew out of Berries and went to Jiang for DC1. Since I can help DC1, I feel confident enough to do the same for DC2 and hence drew out of Berries totally for him and “push” him for higher level by enrolling to Wang when he was in K2 to prep him for primary school readiness.

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Re: Wang Learning Centre 汪老師 - Discussion

Post by Estéema » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:26 pm

Wow! LC, your DC2 joined 汪 at K2? That's so advanced! I didn't discover that Berries had its limits till P3, but yes DC did enjoy learning the Chinese language at Berries.

Each child is diff & hv diff pace. So parents shld monitor.

What is SWKD?

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Re: Wang Learning Centre 汪老師 - Discussion

Post by laughingcat » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:37 pm

Estee, actually the foundation of lower primary Chinese easily achieved through using SWKD aka 四五快读. By completing all the 8 books of SWKD, the child's chinese words recognition and reading skills easily reached P2/P3 early phase standard. But for writing per se, still need additional help.

DC2 at Wang at K2 was a breeze in the park. I like the 3hrs straight lesson to give a taste of what a typical classroom management is like - discipline. Even till todate at P3, DC2 can handle Wang with ease.

So parents out there with kids at nursery and kindergarten, pls start the Chinese language early. If can teach Mandarin, then use SWKD religiously and daily. You do not need to depend on enrichment at such a young age. If I have another child, I would use just that. Then at K2 coming to P1, then go for Chinese tuition to prep for school readiness.

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Re: Wang Learning Centre 汪老師 - Discussion

Post by Estéema » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:07 pm

@ LC Still don't know what's SWD leh. Can enlighten blur me? Maybe I've missed some of yr earlier sharing being out on trip.

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Re: Wang Learning Centre 汪老師 - Discussion

Post by kylene » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:14 pm

laughingcat wrote:Noticed a lot of parents are confuse or not knowing which centres to place your child in. Observe your child and see where your child is in terms of standard. Once your child is way surpass a certain level and you do not see the improvement, just move on. It is very easy to see for lower primary kids.

I taught both my children using SWKD when they are in pre-nursery and at the same time attended the Berries. I like Berries because it also induce fun learning. I don’t want the children to hate chinese language and Berries environment is good. Till to date, both my children still talk about their experiences in Berries.

However half way K1, DC1 standard became so good (all thanks to SWKD) that knew whatever words Berries introduce in the lesson. There weren’t much challenge and hence I drew out of Berries and went to Jiang for DC1. Since I can help DC1, I feel confident enough to do the same for DC2 and hence drew out of Berries totally for him and “push” him for higher level by enrolling to Wang when he was in K2 to prep him for primary school readiness.
Can you share why you sent DC1 to Jiang but DC2 to Wang? Thanks!


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Re: Wang Learning Centre 汪老師 - Discussion

Post by laughingcat » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:24 pm

Estee, actually I learned SWKD many many years back from another old timed forumer - Tamarind. She is damn good and used to have a blog. But she closed down her blog after the sharing of maid saga and the ST didn't report correctly. Anway, that was history.

You can get the details from here.

https://www.i-bei.com/baby/thread-63406-1-1.html

http://learnthefunway.blogspot.com/2013 ... ience.html

https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/foru ... &start=120

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Re: Wang Learning Centre 汪老師 - Discussion

Post by laughingcat » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:49 pm

kylene, age difference between DC1 and DC2 is 3 years. By the time I found Berries no longer challenging to my kiddos, I stopped Berries totally. By then DC1 is already coming to P1 and DC2 is pre-nursery. So I consider Chinese tuition for DC1 only. At that time I only know about Jiang and how good is Jiang was at that time. DC1 was at Jiang at P1. DC1 has a good grasp of 词语 and 理解 reasonably okay. But Jiang did not do 作文 at P1. By the time we started 作文 at end of P1 at Jiang, I noticed we struggle. Just in time for me to decide whether should I continue at Jiang. I dropped and decided to go to Zhou for compo at P2. I can't go to Wang because I know DC1 will struggle if I start Wang with no right foundation in writing. At Zhou, we managed to get it right. I rushed him to get the basic right first so that we can go to Wang with little struggle. By then DC2 is at K1 level, so together both kids go to Wang. DC1 at Wang at P3 half way through and DC2 at Wang at K1 right at the beginning. At Wang, DC1 did so well. I have no regrets. But we ended up call it a quit at Wang for DC1 at P5 because he needed much rest. By then, he gotten the foothold of writing 作文. Partly is because DC1 loves 作文. So P5 Term 2 onwards no Chinese tuition but we rely on Wang hand-me-down notes. At P6 now, we are at HCL COC because I needed someone credible to mark the 作文。Both this centers are good. Why we didn't return back to Wang at P6 for the compo? Because their class is simply too big and we really cannot control other noisy kids. When I was there last year, I saw the P6 chinese class damn noisy. Teacher cannot control. I cannot tahan. Outside the classroom, can hear their noise. There was this crazy boy who keeps screaming. Teacher from another class got to come in to tell them to stop. Even my kids are not in that class, I walked up to the admin to tell them about it. Still cannot help. I cannot tahan noisy class. Waste my money. I do not like it when the teacher or admin cannot control. f course not classes are like that. But I don't want to try for P6, you know especially for big kids. So now at HCL COC, no regrets at all. I am damn lucky to meet so many good teachers along our learning journey. So at the end of the day, it is all about teachers and the tuition centre curriculum.

Thank goodness, I made the choice of stopping Jiang early. Because they don't really teach the basic of 作文 at P1/P2 good enough for me and my DC1. When DC1 was at Jiang, I met several mothers there and we did click and made friends even till today. We exchanged info and chit chat. When I was out of Jiang, I was sad that there is no more weekly group with the mothers. Most also did not stay for long, in fact, their children's also struggle in 作文。 But some are okay and in fact also very good. Maybe I should stay longer and be patient. But I wasn't. I needed to see change fast. I can't afford to wait.

When DC2 at Wang, I still monitor the class, teacher and my DC2 very closely. Every month, I will ask the teacher how is my child's progress on his weakness. So far everything turns out fine. Class is not noisy. Because my DC2 will remind the class that his mummy will complain to their mothers if the class is noisy. :rotflmao: I scare him lah. But good also. The teacher also used me to scare the class so that she conducts the class with ease.

So looking back, I should have researched more. If I do, I would have put both child at Wang. But the foundation must be there, otherwise the child will struggle and cannot reap the benefits properly. My children standard in Chinese is above average, DC1 able to read the Chinese Newspaper with 80% correct on words recognition and DC2 able to read the P6 Chinese textbook with 80% correct but their standard are no where near Jiang. They will die at Jiang.

There is no one class or tuition centre fits all. Take a look at your child and see whether can they be pushed to the limit.

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Re: Wang Learning Centre 汪老師 - Discussion

Post by Estéema » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:49 pm

laughingcat wrote:Estee, actually I learned SWKD many many years back from another old timed forumer - Tamarind. She is damn good and used to have a blog. But she closed down her blog after the sharing of maid saga and the ST didn't report correctly. Anway, that was history.

You can get the details from here.

https://www.i-bei.com/baby/thread-63406-1-1.html

http://learnthefunway.blogspot.com/2013 ... ience.html

https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/foru ... &start=120

Oh ya, Tamarind! I used to follow her blog.

Thank you for sharing what SWKD is. :thankyou:

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Re: Wang Learning Centre 汪老師 - Discussion

Post by sky minecrafter » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:03 pm

From my perspective, WLC & JEC standards are similar. WLC stronger in Compo cos they write a good variety & very systematic approach. My P1 can look at the question prompts & construct an entire 100 word on the spot, plus educating me how certain expressions are not grammatical. JEC stronger in Compre cos there're more inferential questions & great texts.

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Re: Wang Learning Centre 汪老師 - Discussion

Post by Estéema » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:07 pm

sky minecrafter wrote:From my perspective, WLC & JEC standards are similar. WLC stronger in Compo cos they write a good variety & very systematic approach. My P1 can look at the question prompts & construct an entire 100 word on the spot, plus educating me how certain expressions are not grammatical. ....

Wow! SM, yr child so super, can do 100 word on the spot & tell u abt Chinese grammar! Super!

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